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Will Benedict be the 1st pope in many centuries to abdicate his papal throne?
It seems from Reports that the current pope is up to his neck in trouble about not disclosing information regarding the rape of children in his diocese?
Will Benedict be the 1st pope in many centuries to abdicate his papal throne?
It is indeed hard for the strong to be just to the weak, but acting justly always has its rewards.
being discussed already on another thread. Bring something new to the table to be debated, or risk having this thread closed
1,197 people agree with me.. how many agree with you ?
I think its worthy of a new thread. Reports suggest that he is in trouble. All I'm asking is it possible that he will go?
The other thread is all over the place
It is indeed hard for the strong to be just to the weak, but acting justly always has its rewards.
I think the specific question about resignation is an important one deserving of a separate thread.
Attempts were made to force Benedict to attend court sessions to investigate his facilitating cover-ups in the US, allegedly, but the official line from the authorities in the US was to say that it was impossible to extradite the head of another state. Also, Benedict had been instrumental in ensuring W. Bush got the Catholic vote. But much of this is surpressed/muddied. At this point, I imagine he will hang on until death --he was only meant to be an interim Pope anyway. Next Pope might be Asian or Chinese --to have the kind of impact/sensation that revolves around Obama.
'Climate-Gate' Scandal Should Be Wake-Up Call For Press, Politicians
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It's not. There's a full thread on this very topic elsewhere.
The answer is a simple one. No. Never. Not on your life.
The RC Church is not a democracy and frankly doesn't give a tuppenny damn what its adherents think. It sees the pope as only answerable to God - not cardinals, not bishops, not priests and certainly ordinary people that include those sub-humans 'women'.
There have been popes in the past who have raped (eg, Alexander VI), murdered (ditto), committed incest (ditto), committed what even by the contemporary standards were war crimes (ditto), and they survived - well he did until he was apparently poisoned by his bast*rd son Cesare Borgia, the athiest former cardinal, mass murderer and rapist who raped his sister and murdered his brother, obviously inspired by the morals of his father, the Pope.
The Vatican isn't concerned about tomorrow's headlines. It thinks in terms of the next hundred years. Even when Popes Paul VI and John Paul II wanted to resign due to ill-health they dared not for fear of the implications of setting a precedent for successors. So Benedict will not be resigning no matter what the reaction is to revelations about him. The Vatican's lack of concern was shown in the fact that the only bishop to actually come out of the Dublin archdiocese investigation into the handling of abuse cases, Archbishop Martin, was silenced and Bishop Drennan allowed to dodge resigning. The Vatican doesn't give a fig in reality what people think. It never has. It just does what it wants regardless.
(A classic example was in the 19th century when the widespread human rights abuses, and imprisoning of Jews in ghettos in Rome and the Papal States, was condemned the world over. Yet every complaint was met with the response that it was none of the secular world's business how His Holiness ran the Patrimony of St Peter - as the Papal States's official title was.)
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Originally Posted by Mouroux
Why can't Obama be the next Pope. The Europeans are the only ones that have not wised up to him so put a dunce's hat on him, give him a walking stick and off he goes.
Tommy O Brien can spend another few nights crying like he did when he took office
Hmmm... maybe a Tranny pope would keep the liberals happy for a while!
Of course he won't resign --the Vatican think long-term, like in 100 year chunks. What happens in the 21st Century is just part of a much bigger picture. The Church has persisted for thousands of years (and amassed A LOT of gold and land)... they are, I imagine, not too flustered about any of this!
'Climate-Gate' Scandal Should Be Wake-Up Call For Press, Politicians
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Why do they not care? Is the RCC not about bringing people to believe in Jesus Christ?The answer is a simple one. No. Never. Not on your life.
The RC Church is not a democracy and frankly doesn't give a tuppenny damn what its adherents think. It sees the pope as only answerable to God - not cardinals, not bishops, not priests and certainly ordinary people that include those sub-humans 'women'.
There have been popes in the past who have raped (eg, Alexander VI), murdered (ditto), committed incest (ditto), committed what even by the contemporary standards were war crimes (ditto), and they survived - well he did until he was apparently poisoned by his bast*rd son Cesare Borgia, the athiest former cardinal, mass murderer and rapist who raped his sister and murdered his brother, obviously inspired by the morals of his father, the Pope.
The Vatican isn't concerned about tomorrow's headlines. It thinks in terms of the next hundred years. Even when Popes Paul VI and John Paul II wanted to resign due to ill-health they dared not for fear of the implications of setting a precedent for successors. So Benedict will not be resigning no matter what the reaction is to revelations about him. The Vatican's lack of concern was shown in the fact that the only bishop to actually come out of the Dublin archdiocese investigation into the handling of abuse cases, Archbishop Martin, was silenced and Bishop Drennan allowed to dodge resigning. The Vatican doesn't give a fig in reality what people think. It never has. It just does what it wants regardless.
(A classic example was in the 19th century when the widespread human rights abuses, and imprisoning of Jews in ghettos in Rome and the Papal States, was condemned the world over. Yet every complaint was met with the response that it was none of the secular world's business how His Holiness ran the Patrimony of St Peter - as the Papal States's official title was.)
It is indeed hard for the strong to be just to the weak, but acting justly always has its rewards.
So bitter so young. Tsk tsk. You should note how many of the grownups that Tommy disagrees strongly with actually respect him. Not saying you're chronologically young, by the way.
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