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About LinkBacksStart up a separate thread on the issue, if you're so interested.Originally Posted by captainwillard
Start up a separate thread on the issue, if you're so interested.
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There are enough already. To be honest, a thread knocking the catholic church 30 years ago would have been daring, now its just repetitious.
Alexander VI died of the plague.His son Cesare Borgia caught it at the same time but survived.But,during his fever ,his father's enemies managed the succession to the Holy See and Cesare was out.Cesare was suspected of involvement in the murder of his sister Lucrezia's husband.Sin é, so what else don't you know?The answer is a simple one. No. Never. Not on your life.
The RC Church is not a democracy and frankly doesn't give a tuppenny damn what its adherents think. It sees the pope as only answerable to God - not cardinals, not bishops, not priests and certainly ordinary people that include those sub-humans 'women'.
There have been popes in the past who have raped (eg, Alexander VI), murdered (ditto), committed incest (ditto), committed what even by the contemporary standards were war crimes (ditto), and they survived - well he did until he was apparently poisoned by his bast*rd son Cesare Borgia, the athiest former cardinal, mass murderer and rapist who raped his sister and murdered his brother, obviously inspired by the morals of his father, the Pope.
The Vatican isn't concerned about tomorrow's headlines. It thinks in terms of the next hundred years. Even when Popes Paul VI and John Paul II wanted to resign due to ill-health they dared not for fear of the implications of setting a precedent for successors. So Benedict will not be resigning no matter what the reaction is to revelations about him. The Vatican's lack of concern was shown in the fact that the only bishop to actually come out of the Dublin archdiocese investigation into the handling of abuse cases, Archbishop Martin, was silenced and Bishop Drennan allowed to dodge resigning. The Vatican doesn't give a fig in reality what people think. It never has. It just does what it wants regardless.
(A classic example was in the 19th century when the widespread human rights abuses, and imprisoning of Jews in ghettos in Rome and the Papal States, was condemned the world over. Yet every complaint was met with the response that it was none of the secular world's business how His Holiness ran the Patrimony of St Peter - as the Papal States's official title was.)
Some would have every thread on p.ie have some anti catholic slant to it. It is like Mick Lally slagging off the church. I bet he did not say boo during the seventies and eighties.
Whether a thread is pro or anti anything depends on the opinions expressed by contributors.
Can you try to stay on topic, please?
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The answer to the thread title is clearly 'No'.
With a bit of luck, Benedict will continue to do damage to the Catholic Church for the rest of his life.
Long live Benedict!
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They must have been very interesting times.
Can anyone recall a documentary on the selection/election of Benedict? It basically showewd that it was a rush job, as the Jesuits were about to get thier man in. They had manouvered alot of support from African and Asian bishops. So the conservatives had to move fast and the only one they could agree on was Ratzinger. This was a mistake as he was the key man in the Vatican on child abuse cover up, he dealth with stuff in Mexico, US and else where.
All the commentators sent to the Vatican to cover the selection shin dig were taken by surprise when the white smoke went up.
I recall an american alcoholic priest who had access to the conclave blabbing his mouth to a camera crew in a rome cafe on how it all panned out so quickly.
I'd love to see that docu again. Can anyone find anything on Youtube on this? I've looked but so cigar.
Cardinal Ratzinger was one of the main contenders for the position - he wasn't a 'compromise candidate' by any means.
He was the right hand man of Pope John Paul II for a good number of years beforehand.
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