Brady's position is untenable given that he is on the record as stating that he would resign if it was found his actions put children in danger. I wonder if he made that statement in the knowledge that this court case was coming up. If he did then he is completely stupid.Originally Posted by aggressivesecularist
As he sees it it's probably not his choice whether he gets to resign or not. The pope wouldn't accept his resignation and, even after the disgraceful mess the pope's got himself into, he's unlikely to give the Holy Father the two fingers, wouldn't you say?
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He should offer to resign. 9/10 the Pope will accept it. If Brady had come clean and admitted his involvement in the Smyth case under his own volition a couple of years ago and not because he is spooked by impending legal action then the public might be more understanding. As it is, he is now a liability that will be dragged through the courts in an embarrassing case. The Vatican won't like that. He is finished.
Smyth was a classic case. 74 sexual assaults over a 35 year period to 1993. He could have been stopped in 1975. What happened to the canonical trial? Brady is partly responsible for this and should go.
The abuse is so pervasive and the institution of the Roman Catholic Church so embedded, I doubt there is a single cardinal and very few bishops who could honestly say they don't have any of this kind of appalling scandal in their past.
The church is corrupt to the core and without a second reformation, it is incurable.
Actual morality is doing what is right regardless of what you're told. Religious morality is doing what you're told, regardless of if it's right.
There are two issues here.
1st The actions Cardinal Brady was involved at the time were not illegal and were part of a process to uncover what had Fr Smyth done to those boys.
I would say given the legal implications of such accusations and the undoubted shame and embarrassment of his victims that many of them were quite relieved that the abuse would be kept under wraps and not publicly revealed.
Please remember that only a small number of abuse cases are ever brought to court. Indeed its sad to relate that many victims of sexual abuse never reveal what happened to them to anyone at all. This is only slowly changing.
In and of itslelf Cardinal Brady is in the clear on this one unless it can be shown he had a further part in these proceedings and then attempted to block any further investigation into Smyth's activites.
2nd It is an absolute scandal that the Church allowed this individual after that to be placed in positions where his abuse of children could continue.
If Cardinal Brady was shown to have decided to place him in those positions (knowing what kind of a disturbed individual he was) then his position would be untenable.
But so far nothing has emerged to indicate that he did.
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Agreed that the 2nd point is more important. It seems that for at least 30 years the Catholic Church in Ireland followed very closely the abuse career of Brendan Smyth, that large numbers of catholic full-timers, both senior and junior, were aware of the man's proclivities and activities and, much less than shopping him to authorities in a position to put a stop to his abuse, they were actively getting victims to sign oaths of silence on the matter. Effectively, they were facilitating him to commit rape after sexual assault after rape with utter impugnity. By actively pressurising people to shut up about him they were laying out the path before him. But the first point is that Brady, from the early 1970's, was actively involved in this paving activity.
I think your standards on when a resignation is appropriate leave Fianna Fáil's in the ha'penny place.
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Brady has serious questions to answer. If Smith continued to abuse children after this omerta concordat, which Smith did, how did Brady feel. He must fall on his sword. After all he laid down the law for auxiliary bishops of Dublin a few weeks ago
You'd think Kenny committed Treason and brought in IMF. Cowen had all in stitches in Galway at 3.30a.m.but he was "not impaired" -DD Power. FF=Publican páirtí an IMF.
so glad our society is not theocratic and that civil law pervails cos the above bullsh't (Catalpa) indicates obeisance. The crime that is child abuse should *not* be subject to hermetically sealed 'information gathering' sessions . THEY ARE NOT NEUTRAL in their intent and exercise.
Were you on the sauce last night or something?
Where did I indicate obeisance to the Catholic Church?
I didn't even go Mass at time of these investigations - which the general public knew nothing about BTW.
'THEY ARE NOT NEUTRAL in their intent and exercise'
Nothing ever is.
The Social Services across this Country investigate or deal with loads of child abuse cases all the time behind closed doors
- most of which never reach the Courts for one reason or another.
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