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    Quote Originally Posted by sondagefaux View Post
    Here's a quote from that report.



    With hindsight???!!! He needed hindsight to tell him that he should have obeyed the law of the land at the time???!!!
    So, it certainly would appear to be a cover-up.

    The Bishop didn't share the info with the Gardai and the teenages signed confidentiality oats.

    Hence, 'problem' goes away......under the carpet. I think that is a cover-up....eh!!!!
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    Why did Brady come out with this infomation???
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    In a statement, Cardinal Brady said he had believed the complaints he received
    Why did he believe the complaints?? Had he heard of rumours??

    He believed crimes had taken place and yet sat on them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Newsy View Post
    Why did Brady come out with this information???
    I was wondering the same. It seems an odd thing to volunteer

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackpitts View Post
    I was wondering the same. It seems an odd thing to volunteer
    An attempt at damage control. According to RTÉ, Sunday newspapers are running this story tomorrow based on information they gathered.

    David Quinn on Brady in November 2007, just before his official appointment as Cardinal.

    What Sean Brady has going for him is patent sincerity. What he also has going for him is genuine humility. The Church has its fair share of careerists and it will have impressed Rome that Archbishop Brady is not the type to campaign for a red hat. In addition, he is impeccably orthodox, though not in a rigid way. Much as I loath that overused word 'pastoral', he is a good pastor. There's a wonderful story about how, when he was rector of the Irish College in Rome , he used to regularly help out a homeless Irishman who would call to the college from time to time.
    http://www.independent.ie/opinion/an...d-1227189.html
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    What comes through from the accounts of cover-ups etc is that clerics were socialised into an intense loyalty to the RCC that rendered every other claim on their allegiance secondary. So when the Church looked after a homeless man, it was Good, and whenit swept scandal and crime under the rug, it was So That It Could Continue To Do Good. Pure rationalisation, of course, and we're all susceptible to it. HOwever, you could only do it at the expense of abuse victims by being blind to ethical and legal duties that would be undeniable to anyone else.

    How did they get into that position?

    There are hints at it in the Ryan Report, which refers to the early age at which aspiring entrants to orders were recruited and the sustenance the were given in return for allegiance.

    There was their social position, in which they did not earn an living through economic production, but as a reward for their divinely approved work.

    There was celibacy, which diverted their loyalties from real human being to an abstract entity, and their interactions from the give-and-take of family life to unnatural

    And there was their power (real, imagined, or aspirational) which diminished the importance of those they dealt with.

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    Ooops! Typos go leor, that should read "unnatural isolation".

    Excuse other failings typographiques, SVP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Newsy View Post
    Why did Brady come out with this infomation???
    Will be in a few papers tomorrow. Getting his speak in first....

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    presumably one of the two people has spoken out...
    What does the Irish President spend their time doing. Work in progress
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    The Vatican also insisted that church confidentiality doesn't prevent bishops from reporting abuse to police.
    Should have told that to Cardinal Brady and his Bishop!!!!

    Benedict is also under fire for a 2001 church directive he wrote while a Vatican cardinal, instructing bishops to keep abuse cases confidential.
    But Irish bishops have said the document was widely taken to mean they shouldn't go to police. And victims' lawyers in the U.S. say the document shows the church tried to obstruct justice.
    Germany's justice minister has blamed the directive for what she called a "wall of silence" preventing prosecution.
    Vatican officials defend pope on abuse - Yahoo! News

    The carpet is really lifting t.g.
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