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    @Turds yes we endow victims with letters and youth is not as wily as the self-protectiveness of such organisations as the Church.

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    So Brady was aware of the existence of this sordid behaviour since 1975.

    Wasn't he saying something about resigning if he felt he didn't do enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aggressivesecularist View Post
    That will be the spin alright.

    I'll bet the two signatories thought they were signing an oath committing them to keep their respective mouths shut about the abuse they had suffered at the hands of Brendan Smyth.
    In 1975, I suspect that was the intention - they probably thought it was their fault.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wombat View Post
    In 1975, I suspect that was the intention - they probably thought it was their fault.
    I'm pretty sure you're right on the first point. On the second, I'm just as certain that Brady at least thought it was their fault.

    Remind me: how long was it before Smyth was prosecuted?

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    Until people stop going to mass and funding this peodofile ring, this kind of thing will continue.

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    Cardinal Martin anyone ?

    The only reason for Brady not to be toast over this... is that he should be toast

    He should have admitted it himself

    He didn't... thus toasting a red-hat is likely a step too far... though he could be pressured to go - people like Colm O'Gorman hold a lot of cards here...

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    He won't go. The pope won't let him -- for obvious reasons.

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    interestingly since we do not have adequate child/teen protections, the question of legal advocacy in settlement situations or 'information gathering' could be akin to 1975. The necessity for a referendum is still mostly shelved, thus this type of process could be repeated with little change, given lack of services.

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    Brady must go. All this secrecy bull was covered in Vatican Law Crimen solicitationis. This was part of what the infamous Des Connell of Dublin was on about, that canon law superceded the criminal law of the land, which is nonsence as canon law has just the same status as golf club rules.Mentasl reservations
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    You'd think Kenny committed Treason and brought in IMF. Cowen had all in stitches in Galway at 3.30a.m.but he was "not impaired" -DD Power. FF=Publican páirtí an IMF.

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    Obviously Brady knew that Symth was an abuser from at least the time of this meeting.

    Apart from the utterly unethical stance of the church in pressuring children to take an oath of silence, failure to report a serious crime was misprision of felony in 1975, itself a criminal offence until 1998.

    In the aftermath of the Murphy report the Irish Government has found itself under increasing pressure to amend the criminal law to ensure child protection. Raferty notes in particular how the offence of misprision of felony could have been employed against Bishop Donal O’Mahony in relation to specific evidence within the Murphy report that he was involved in covering up the abuse of children by priests within the Dublin Archdiocese. However, as she notes, misprision ‘was conveniently dropped from the statute books in 1998 when the felony laws changed. The effect was that no priest, bishop, or indeed lay person, could be charged with failing to report criminal activity of which they were aware.’
    Murphy Commission Report and the Criminal Law Human Rights in Ireland

    It's high time that it was brought back onto the statute books.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misprision_of_felony
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