St. Patrick was a Roman Catholic and said Mass.

[SevenStars]

They hate the term 'uniate', they believe that it is an Orthodox insult, implying that they are merely 'separated Orthodox'. The Eastern churches or rites are often seen as a 'bridge' to Orthodoxy by Rome, and you are correct that there are differences more than just form and rite. These churches/rites are still considered part of the one unversal Church, though.

Yes true...Maybe I shouldnt have used it but I have strong sympathies towards the Non-Chalcedonian Orthodox.

Also another question...The Eastern-rite Melkites and at least the Ukranians in Dublin celebrate the feast day of St Gregory of Palamas...But surely as he died in heresy (the Byzantine Orthodox being heretics by Roman Catholic standards) he is in hell according to Roman Catholicism?

[eoghanacht]

transubstantiation

Shake harder boy

yep that's the one, oh and i'm no boy, lightweight

[lostexpectation]

Seems fairly convoluted reasoning.
First, he felt using the religious symbol associatd with st. patrick for an ad for paddy's day festivities in his shopping centre would offend religious people.
Then, to resolve this problem, he doesn't just NOT use the symbol, he replaces it with a "good-luck" symbol which looks similar except that the religious symbolism is exculpated?

Is that the gist of it?

would you think using a detailed picture of jesus on the cross would be good use on christmas ad for a shopping centre?

[Mic]

Hold on a minute, the text I gave you came directly from the vatican. You now seem to be saying that it doesn't count because it is English. So perahps you should amend your statement to



Because what you have stated simply isn't true.

Look, it's not that hard to understand. Catholic means universal. It makes no sense to qualify universal with Roman, Non-Roman or whatever. The term Roman Catholic only makes sense when used as a *label* for the church which calls itself "Catholic" because it happens to consider itself the universal church. Obviously, if one is to write a document which is going to be read in the context of a number of churches who consider themselves catholic, then one is going to be obliged to provide a label to identify one-self. The label usually used is Roman Catholic. Perhaps a tad daft, but simple really.
Of course, when you start with the nonsense of self-identifying your faith as "universal", there's not a lot of sensible places you can go from there.

[fionnmccool]

if you want do to something religious then use a shamrock if you don't don't, this is an ad for a shop, for him to use a shamrock could be more offensive to religious then using a four leaf clover.

None of it makes any sense to me. The shamrock/4 leaf clover is not an exclusively religious symbol. If he used a little man on a cross to advertise his store than I'd totally understand why people would be offended. I never heard of someone being upset at a shamrock/clover before. It's nuts.

Why arent the religious right picketing O Carrolls tacky stores for example where stuff like in the images below is freely available linking Irish flags, booze and shamrocks galore ?

[lostexpectation]

its St Diageo day

[Mic]

if you want do to something religious then use a shamrock if you don't don't, this is an ad for a shop, for him to use a shamrock could be more offensive to religious then using a four leaf clover.

Seems fairly convoluted reasoning.
First, he felt using the religious symbol associatd with st. patrick for an ad for paddy's day festivities in his shopping centre would offend religious people.
Then, to resolve this problem, he doesn't just NOT use the symbol, he replaces it with a "good-luck" symbol which looks similar except that the religious symbolism is exculpated?

Is that the gist of it?

would you think using a detailed picture jesus on the cross would be good use on christmas ad for a shopping centre?

LostExpectation, do you always like to answer a question with a question, or do you also need to go off on a tanget? Maybe you think your are illustrating something with this question, but the only thing this post illustrates is an apparent inability to distinguish between different kinds of fruit

Perhaps you genuinely don't understand the difference between the symbolism of a the 3 leaves of a shamrock and a cross. Would you like it explained?

[Mic]

None of it makes any sense to me. The shamrock/4 leaf clover is not an exclusively religious symbol. If he used a little man on a cross to advertise his store than I'd totally understand why people would be offended. I never heard of someone being upset at a shamrock/clover before. It's nuts.

Why arent the religious right picketing O Carrolls tacky stores for example where stuff like in the images below is freely available linking Irish flags, booze and shamrocks galore ?

If you would actually like to understand, maybe you would stand a better chance by listening to the show rather than diligently searching the web for examples of things you think people might have right to be offended about? Then you wouldn't completely misunderstand who was or wasn't offended by what.

[PaddyJoe McGillycuddy]

Well done lads. You managed to get a banner ad for 'Catholic mates' up top there. I'd say that's a first.

[expatPat]

The tradition I was taught was that he was not Roman Catholic, but Christian. I think it's more important we use Saint Patrick as a national symbol to unite us across the diaspora, especially now, even if some believe he was a Roman Catholic.