St. Patrick was a Roman Catholic and said Mass.

[Estragon]

I don't think he actually drove the snakes out though. Like the good little Catholic bishop he was, he probably just moved them around from parish to parish without telling any one...

Hard to know if that's really funny or just too close to the bone. Great point though.

[Riadach]

What is Mass, can anyone tell me. Do many Catholics believe that bread and wine is turned into flesh and blood. Who knows if Patrick said it. And does anyone believe that Patrick visited every parish in Ireland, opened new wells etc. And did he climb Croagh Patrick ,spend 40 days there and drive the snakes out of Ireland,and ask that he be allowed to judge the Irish on the last day. If so, there is some hope for crooked politicians and bankers/builders, as one of ther biggest sins is to come down heavy on the poor as they have done. And as regards sex offenders, will be drive them into the sea like the snakes.

The church certainly do. I remember being told in my local church that St Patrick had founded the parish in the fifth century? However, the name of the area begins withj Domhnach, and there was a campaign by Armagh to extend its paruchia throughout Ireland, by claiming its patron, Patrick, had founded all churches beginning with the name Domhnach, and thus all such churches were subject to it. Similarly, other works such as Tírechán's life, tried to extend Armagh's influence into Connacht by claiming foundations and miracles there, whereas Muirchiú's life of St Patrick tried to claim Armagh's primacy over all the churches of Ireland, as well as claiming Patrick irrefutably for Armagh, and not for his supposed death-place at Dún Lethglaisse. Muirchiú's life is also one of the earliest references to Uí Néill domination of all-Ireland, calling Loeguire ' a great king, fierce and pagan, emperor of the barbarians'. Of course, it's a coincidence that Armagh was intrinsically linked to the fortunes of the Uí Néill in the 8th century? Right? Right?

[Old Mr Grouser]

Some geezer in Dundalk put a fourleafed clover in A St. Patricks Day ad.

Who teaches this stuff in schools ? Priests ? Teachers?

The Irish Shamrock does properly have four leafs, Wes.

It's from the Second Vatican Council, and the Constitution of the Catholic Church 'Lumen Gentium'.

The four leafs represent the four persons of the Blessed Trinity; Our Blessed Mother, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.

I would have thought everyone knew that. You need to pray the Rosary more often.

[Catalpa]

The church certainly do. I remember being told in my local church that St Patrick had founded the parish in the fifth century? However, the name of the area begins withj Domhnach, and there was a campaign by Armagh to extend it's paruchia throughout Ireland, by claiming its patron, Patrick, had founded all churches beginning with the name Domhnach. Similarly, other works such as Tírechán's life, tried to extend Armagh's influence into Connacht by claiming foundations and miracles there, whereas Muirchiú's life of St Patrick tried to claim Armagh's primacy over all the churches of Ireland, as well as claiming Patrick irrefutably for Armagh, and not for his supposed death-place at Armagh. Muirchiú's life is also one of the earliest references to Uí Néill domination of all-Ireland, calling Loeguire ' a great king, fierce and pagan, emperor of the barbarians'. Of course, it's a coincidence that Armagh was intrinsically linked to the fortunes of the Uí Néill in the 8th century? Right? Right?

It think its genearly accepted that St Patrick's Mission was focused more on Leath Conn than Leath Moga

- Armagh was probably on solid ground in claiming primacy

- but they used every trick in the book to make sure it stayed that way.

[Riadach]

The Irish Shamrock does properly have four leafs, Wes.

It's from the Second Vatican Council, and the Constitution of the Catholic Church 'Lumen Gentium'.

The four leafs represent the four persons of the Blessed Trinity; Our Blessed Mother, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.

I would have thought everyone knew that. You need to pray the Rosary more often.

Four persons of the Blessed Trinity is surely like having 6 players on a five-a-side team?

[Catalpa]

The Irish Shamrock does properly have four leafs, Wes.

It's from the Second Vatican Council, and the Constitution of the Catholic Church 'Lumen Gentium'.

The four leafs represent the four persons of the Blessed Trinity; Our Blessed Mother, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.

I would have thought everyone knew that. You need to pray the Rosary more often.

Young Man - a word of warning

- stay away from those Head Shops!

[eoghanacht]

i don't think he actually drove the snakes out though. Like the good little catholic bishop he was, he probably just moved them around from parish to parish without telling any one...

lmao

[Riadach]

It think its genearly accepted that St Patrick's Mission was focused more on Leath Conn than Leath Moga

- Armagh was probably on solid ground in claiming primacy

- but they used every trick in the book to make sure it stayed that way.

Well, of course, men like St Ailbhe are accredited to converting Munster. Secundias problem had a strong hand around the Midlands. I think Armagh's primacy is probably more due to temporal grounds than spiritual one. It is a fascinating insight into the mischevious politics of the period though.

[Mitsui2]

I don't think he actually drove the snakes out though. Like the good little Catholic bishop he was, he probably just moved them around from parish to parish without telling any one...

Sometimes I really miss posrep!

[Mitsui2]

.. there was a campaign by Armagh to extend its paruchia throughout Ireland, by claiming its patron, Patrick, had founded all churches beginning with the name Domhnach

What on earth was their reasoning? Have they found a work-schedule that indicates Sunday was his church-founding day or something?????