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    He acceded to a decision to put him back into a parish where he had access to children. This much we do know from the Munich Archdiocese statement.

    The diocese says the decision to place him in a parish was made by someone else and sent to him for approval. The suggestion is that he may or may not have looked at the decision personally, but that he (a) knew of the past of the priest in question and (b) he was at the very least informed of the decision.

    It may be that the issue of reporting the priest to the authorities didn't come up, as it seems the Essen incident was subject to a police investigation (I may be wrong). The issue so far would seem to be the exposure of children to danger via the man's placement in a parish.

    One also wonders of the parish in question was informed of the man's past

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    Hang on - Reuters might be reading this thread ;-)

    Bookmaker slashes odds on Pope's resignation | Top News | Reuters

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    So at issue we have

    1. Not reporting the guy to the authorities in 1980
    2. Not giving him the recommended therapy in 1980 - see here
    3. Ratzinger lost interest in the case, leaving it to his deputy (what's a bit of pedophilia when people are off using johnnies? )
    4. His deputy shuffled him on again, though notice of this was sent to Ratzinger
    5. The priest committed new offences and got a light sentence
    6. At that trial: did the Church Authorities mention his past form ? Seems unlikely given the sentence


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    @bokonon: The content does look familiar, dunnit?

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    Crimen Sollicitationis is a phrase to get used to...

    As Cardinal Ratzinger was Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (CDF), the sexual abuse of minors by priests was his responsibility to investigate from 2001, when that charge was given to the CDF by Pope John Paul II.
    As part of the implementation of the norms enacted and promulgated on April 30, 2001 by Pope John Paul II, on May 18, 2001 Ratzinger sent a letter to every bishop in the Catholic Church. This letter reminded them of the strict penalties facing those who revealed confidential details concerning enquiries into allegations against priests of certain grave ecclesiastical crimes, including sexual abuse, which were reserved to the jurisdiction of the Congregation.

    Joseph Ratzinger as Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    http://www.nationalcatholicreporter....e/bn080703.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyberianpan View Post
    So at issue we have

    1. Not reporting the guy to the authorities in 1980
    2. Not giving him the recommended therapy in 1980 - see here
    3. Ratzinger lost interest in the case, leaving it to his deputy (what's a bit of pedophilia when people are off using johnnies? )
    4. His deputy shuffled him on again, though notice of this was sent to Ratzinger
    5. The priest committed new offences and got a light sentence
    6. At that trial: did the Church Authorities mention his past form ? Seems unlikely given the sentence


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    3 and 4 look like a cert. Buck stops with Ratzi.

    Other than that there are a whole bunch of questions and a very acrid smog fast developing around him.

    Good you spotted the mention of therapy that apparently never happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aggressivesecularist View Post
    3 and 4 look like a cert. Buck stops with Ratzi.

    Other than that there are a whole bunch of questions and a very acrid smog fast developing around him.

    Good you spotted the mention of therapy that apparently never happened.
    The lack of therapy is a serious issue - if they decided to take the case into their own hands... and just shuffled him... that would be especially damning

    Also for a chap to be running around preaching condoms are evil... whilst ignoring the pedophile he gave a position of trust to... shows an interesting perspective on life

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyberianpan View Post
    • Not giving him the recommended therapy in 1980 - see here
    (from the article): "The priest was supposed to undergo therapy at a rectory."

    And by therapists, they mean.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyberianpan View Post
    The lack of therapy is a serious issue - if they decided to take the case into their own hands... and just shuffled him... that would be especially damning

    Also for a chap to be running around preaching condoms are evil... whilst ignoring the pedophile he gave a position of trust to... shows an interesting perspective on life

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    Very damaging alright. Not resignation material though. I'm not sure if anything is, though.

    This is going to hurt the RCC quite badly. It could kill it effectively in Ireland.

    A resignation would probably draw some sort of line under it.

    It won't happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bokonon View Post
    (from the article): "The priest was supposed to undergo therapy at a rectory."

    And by therapists, they mean.....
    Electro shocking his ghoulies whilst showing him pictures of altar boys ?

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