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    Quote Originally Posted by cyberianpan View Post
    They've been caught red-handed

    Pope being set up over Munich sex abuse case, says Vatican | World news | The Observer


    Priest says he was pressurised into taking blame for pope - The Irish Times - Mon, Apr 19, 2010


    The chap who covered for him and took the bullet... is casting doubts on the cover story... the pope should be finished by this

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    How?

    How do you know this is what actually happened?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catalpa View Post
    How?

    How do you know this is what actually happened?
    Catholic Abuse Scandal: Was Munich's Vicar General Forced to Serve as Ratzinger's Scapegoat? - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News - International
    Gruber's friends say that the old man was only familiar with parts of the statement, that he was apparently being used as a scapegoat and that he was also under additional emotional pressure. [COLOR="Red"]To everyone's surprise, Gruber wrote an open letter in which he qualified the archdiocese's statement,[/COLOR] writing that he did not sign any documents over which he had no influence. He also noted that he was "very upset" about the "manner in which the incidents were portrayed" by the archdiocese. "And the phrase 'acted on his own authority' also wasn't discussed with me," he wrote.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catalpa View Post
    How?

    How do you know this is what actually happened?
    What is your explanation of Gruber's recantation now that your ridiculous speculation that he might have been trying to cover his back legally has been blown out of the water?

    Is he simply a liar?

    If so, how come he became a liar so recently?

    Tell us how you'd hang him out to try if you were responsible for covering up the pope's past mistakes! Go on!

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    Thanks for that JT!

    Means SFA as regards the role or otherwise of Pope Benedict in this sick priest's appointment.

    This isn't even 2nd hand information - it's 3rd hand information!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toland View Post
    What is your explanation of Gruber's recantation now that your ridiculous speculation that he might have been trying to cover his back legally has been blown out of the water?

    Is he simply a liar?

    If so, how come he became a liar so recently?

    Tell us how you'd hang him out to try if you were responsible for covering up the pope's past mistakes! Go on!
    We've yet to read this alleged 'recantation' in his own words.

    Until that time this is merely tittle tattle...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catalpa View Post
    Thanks for that JT!

    Means SFA as regards the role or otherwise of Pope Benedict in this sick priest's appointment.

    This isn't even 2nd hand information - it's 3rd hand information!
    Do we have to dig out the open letter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toland View Post
    Do we have to dig out the open letter?
    Please do so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catalpa View Post
    We've yet to read this alleged 'recantation' in his own words.

    Until that time this is merely tittle tattle...
    Can't find any open letter from Gruber anywhere. It's possible it might be a mistranslation.

    There was a private letter that seems to have been made available to Der Spiegel. None of the relevant passages are quoted directly in either English or German.

    I think you may be right for the moment and that this is not quite yet the final blow (after all, Fr. Gruber can -- and probably will -- be hung out to dry) but it is very much more than tittle tattle, as you know.

    It is a significant hit and probably provides a rather precise marker for further, more explosive hits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyberianpan View Post
    This is quite serious and could force the Pope's resignation

    The summary of the story is
    1. As Cardinal Ratzinger he approved therapy for a paedophile priest in Munich in 1980
    2. Cardinal Ratzinger didn't report this priest to to the authorities
    3. The therapy never happened see here
    4. Ratzinger lost interest in the case
    5. His deputy then shuffled the priest on again out into active ministry, where he committed more offenses
    6. The abuser was only then convicted and got a light sentence
    7. At that trial: did the Church Authorities mention his past form ? Seems unlikely given the sentence



    Pope knew priest was paedophile but allowed him to continue with ministry -Times Online


    The Associated Press: Pope's former diocese admits error over priest


    Despite his power, the Pope could resign over latest sex scandal -Times Online


    In light of all this pressure... he's in trouble:

    http://www.politics.ie/culture-commu...-celibacy.html
    http://www.politics.ie/culture-commu...n-inquiry.html
    http://www.politics.ie/foreign-affai...opes-home.html

    cYp
    the Roman catholic church is an apostate church they are not christian, you only have to look at their teachings, un-natural non biblical ramblings and traditions of mere mortal men.

    I urge any Catholics to leave the RCC before its too late, it is a den of evil and certainly not christian in any way. pompous arrogance is all you will find in it.

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