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    Quote Originally Posted by sondagefaux View Post
    Enough of the whataboutery please.

    Extracts from the German Criminal Code.

    Criminal Code (Strafgesetzbuch, StGB)



    If the court in Upper Bavaria that gave the priest an 18-month suspended sentence and a DM4,000 fine had know about the priest's 'previous history' and the 'personality of the convicted person' it might not have suspended the sentence.



    Did people in the diocese of Munich and Freising furnish or create an opportunity for the priest to commit sexual acts on a person under sixteen years of age by allowing him to return to active pastoral work?
    Unfortunately, the relevant dates under the German Statutes of Limitation are well expired by now.

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    Anyone heard any broadcast news on this on RTÉ yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by captainwillard View Post
    Paedophilia is disgusting. However, one must wonder about the motives and indeed the inclinations of a tiny minority who post ad nauseum about the subject, even posting graphic details about the nature of the abuse.

    I do wonder.
    Still beating that empty drum, Bob. Did you learn nothing from your banning the last time?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cato View Post
    Frankly, even before this story broke he was guilty of collusion in pedophile enabling in his former role before becoming pope when he issued secret orders to bishops around the world detailing that allegations of pedophile priests were to be kept secret. So I'm still happy to stand over what I wrote.
    Fair enough - I wasn't criticising.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cato View Post
    In this case it appears as if an underling is willing to take the blame. Either the pope knew of what occurred, and so if guilty of enabling, or he did not know, and is guilty of a gross dereliction of duty. Either directly or indirectly the pope is guilty of pedophile enabling.
    Oh, I agree completely - I just hoped you were a fairer person than I am!

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    Thanks for caring about my Karma!
    I suppose it was really your blood-pressure that concerned me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sondagefaux View Post
    The other part of that pattern is normally the failure to inform the authorities of the accusation.
    +100

    That's the crucial bit of information I've been trying to discover - did they shop the guy to the authorities or was this move part of a cover-up (as seems to have been Church SOP - as you point out)

    I've not seen this clarified anywhere at all.

    Reading the Irish Times report again today it seems full of gaps in all the important places including this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sondagefaux View Post
    Did people in the diocese of Munich and Freising furnish or create an opportunity for the priest to commit sexual acts on a person under sixteen years of age by allowing him to return to active pastoral work?
    At the risk of sounding facetious, I'm tempted to reply by asking "Is the Pope a Catholic?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cato View Post
    Apologist waffle. There is something gravely ill at the heart of the Catholic (so-called) Church. Your founder must be spinning in his grave. (Yes, I know that denies the mumbo-jumbo story of the resurrection.)

    Thankfully, two days ago I received formal notification that my defection from the church has been accepted. For anyone interested in leaving the church go to Count Me Out - Take a stand for church/state separation.

    The Catholic Church is rotten to it's core; in its message and in its practice.

    Cato,
    If you are intellectually honest and consistent you will turn your back completely on Christianity, and its 'mumbo jumbo story of the resurrection'. The more you write the more I see an agenda. You might learn from some of the victims of Catholic institutional and diocesan priestly abuse around here who have more cause to reject Catholicism and even Christianity as a faith than you do, yet show an incredible capacity for objectivity. What have you defected to, or is that the right word?
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    "what have you defected to"?

    Is that not a silly question?

    When you knock down a wall, does it suggest you must necessarily build a new one to replace it.

    Often one knocks down a wall either to open a path where there was none before, or simply to improve the view.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aggressivesecularist View Post
    "what have you defected to"?

    Is that not a silly question?
    Not really, there seems to be an obsession with what was left behind.

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    Look, this will be covered up again. By ensuring that the Vicar General takes the hit for this, our red pointy Prada shoe wearing Pope is off the hook.

    This story will not run. I hope someone out there makes sure it does, but I am not convinced. The Vatican has so much power, particulary in protecting the Pope.

    Next week there will be an encyclical or statement outlawing something or other to take the heat off. And Easter is approaching, the biggest gig on the RC calendar. Washing of feet features in that somewhere doesn't it. How could anyone take their shoes off for a priest to wash them? ugh.

    That feet washing thing just came into my head from the dregs of my religious education.

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