GAA pitch invaders an undisciplined, self indulgent rabble

[lostexpectation]

GAA pitch invaders an undisciplined, self indulgent rabble

as opposed to the players on the pitch

[The_SR]

Because there's a tradition of it in the GAA and it does no harm, pitch invasions have been part of the association since 1884 and there's been little or no injuries.

It does do harm, a steward at the hurling cup final got hospitalised.

But the broader point is just becasuse something is 'tradition' doesn't mean its acceptible. Its 'tradition' for English fans to racially abuse black players. But the English FA clamped down on it and its not accepted anymore.

Will it take a serious injury (and major lawsuit) for you to decide that this tradition is a bad one?

[The_SR]

Ah sure never mind that Meath crowd. They're as bad as the Dub soccer fans, most of the other invasions you speak of is only to ask the ref a few questions about the match.

...with their fists...

I'm not for a second going to try and whip up a Herald style hysteria about trouble at the GAA, by and large there isn't any, but it is interesting that trouble in the GAA is laughed off but an incident at the football, real or imaginary, is hyped to the nines.

Even the fact that you are attempting to blame any element on the Hill on fans of a football club that are boycotting all things GAA feeds into this....

[SKELLY]

.... a steward at the hurling cup final got hospitalised.

what credibility you had is now gone, you obviously now nothing about the GAA if you refer to the all-ireland as a cup final! lol!

Pitch invasions are part and parcel of the GAA. Comparing crowd control to other sports, particularly soccer, which has a history of hooliganism and violence is nonsense.

Now take your nanny state health and safety rubbish thread and go to soccer games where no doubt you will be herded by riot police and mounted police into and out of the stadium happy in the knowledge that any responsibility to yourself has been handed to others and that you are safe!

[The_SR]

Maybe it's not Shamrock Rovers fans then. It could be St. Pat's fans.

Or they could be Dubs fans.... Stop deflecting!

Anyway yeah we need to stamp out any incidents of supporters having words with the ref but it's usually only one or two people that get a little over-excited and there's always someone about to calm them down.

Fair enough. Lets hope that the Gah heads on here have the same sense of proportion next time the red tops declare WW3 happened at a LoI game.

[The_SR]

what credibility you had is now gone, you obviously now nothing about the GAA if you refer to the all-ireland as a cup final! lol!

Semantics. Stop nit picking. It was a cup final and this 'tradition' stuck a youngfella in A&E.

Pitch invasions are part and parcel of the GAA. Comparing crowd control to other sports, particularly soccer, which has a history of hooliganism and violence is nonsense.

Lots of things are part and parcel of the GAA, that doens't mean a discussion about whether they are acceptible can't take place.

Are you telling me there isn't equally as large a 'history of violence' in the GAA? Or, maybe, you shouldn't believe all you read in the Sunday World....

Now take your nanny state health and safety rubbish thread and go to soccer games where no doubt you will be herded by riot police and mounted police into and out of the stadium happy in the knowledge that any responsibility to yourself has been handed to others and that you are safe!

I think you are close there - I am responsible for my behaviour at a football game and if I do something stupid like run onto the pitch at the end of a game (or attack a referee like we see routinely in the GAA) there will be sanctions and there won't be people defending me on the internet on the basis of tradition.

But I'm glad you acknowledge that the FAI take spectator safely more seriously than the GAA.....

[The_SR]

Ok so your a LoI regular are you? Now I see where your coming from.

If I came on here and said that any potential trouble makers at football were actually GAA heads, I would be rightly ridiculed....

[SKELLY]

You are the one who has brought up the FAI!
And they dont take it more seriously, they are forced too by law! through many rulings from the EU and FIFA, due to the many stadium disasters caused by hooligans and thugs.
Are you insinuating the FAI where being pro-active with crowd safety! ha! give me a break! they cant even get even pay Traps wages!

Sorry but its called the ALL-IRELAND HURLING FINAL!

and He wasnt a "youngfella" either.

Look, you are obviously a LofI fan who has a chip on there shoulder about the GAA. Maybe you should start a thread on the disgrace that is the FAI, clubs going bankrupt because they pay ridiculous wages, crowd turnouts, the eircom stadium debacle, tallagh stadium, Saipan, general corruption within the FAI.
The list goes on.......

[The_SR]

You are the one who has brought up the FAI!
And they dont take it more seriously, they are forced too by law! through many rulings from the EU and FIFA, due to the many stadium disasters caused by hooligans and thugs.

...and the GAA are bound by the same legislation...

But the FAI enforces it and happily bans people from games whose behaviour is defended by GAA folk

Sorry but its called the ALL-IRELAND HURLING FINAL!

Pedant.

and He wasnt a "youngfella" either.

So that makes it ok?

Look, you are obviously a LofI fan who has a chip on there shoulder about the GAA. Maybe you should start a thread on the disgrace that is the FAI, clubs going bankrupt because they pay ridiculous wages, crowd turnouts, the eircom stadium debacle, tallagh stadium, Saipan, general corruption within the FAI.
The list goes on.......

I do and am extremely critical of them when needs be, but thankfully the FAI are not the mess they were in the 80's and 90's (largely because people in the grass roots didn't accept dodgy practices as 'tradition'...), clubs go bankrupt everywhere, Chester City were wound up today, and the GAA were the villians of the Tallaght Stadium piece. Read the judgement.

But this thread isn't about what the FAI used to be, its about the GAA refusing to implement best practice and health and safely law because of 'tradition'.

[The_SR]

I don't know where the trouble makers at GAA matches come from, a Dub earlier in the thread said it was Shamrock Rovers fans.

Well they aren't. They are Dubs fans and I would hardly call them trouble makers.

I haven't come into contact with many LoI fans but any that I have despise the GAA. I don't know why but if it makes you happy.

I'll give you a head start...

The ban.

Broken glass on football pitches spread by GAA men

Rule 42 while demanding use of football facilities through the courts.

Tallaght.

While many involved in grass roots football have real reasons to dislike the GAA for their actions over the years, GAA heads hate domestic football with a bigoted zeal I truely hope we can move away from.

But we digress.