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    @Cookiemonster , it seems that people respond to the tenor rather than the appended content/ comments of the OP. A particularly lrish desire for regurgitation that advises half-assed response and quasi-polemic.

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    The rise in so-called atheism is a symptom of the dumbing-down of our society.
    Most self-proclaimed atheists are entirely unable to give an account of their beliefs and instead seek refuge in the herd.
    Simply referring to logic and reason, while simultaneously alluding to magic, when cornered, as well as the ability to insult other religions, seems to be all that is required to be an atheist.
    Bestowing guru status on the likes of Dawkins says it all really.
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    and discombobulated secularism, unable to assert itself positively...asserts itself ..repressively."

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    case in point ^ . Not one responding member has read the article in the OP or the six pages of responses. lts like Leinster Hse !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Half Nelson View Post
    The rise in so-called atheism is a symptom of the dumbing-down of our society.
    Most self-proclaimed atheists are entirely unable to give an account of their beliefs and instead seek refuge in the herd.
    Simply referring to logic and reason, while simultaneously alluding to magic, when cornered, as well as the ability to insult other religions, seems to be all that is required to be an atheist.
    Bestowing guru status on the likes of Dawkins says it all really.
    What are you on about?

    I "believe" I have the right to insult "all" religions. I hope you don't think it's ok to opress me for my "belief"

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    why bother wasting a lovely day in thralldom to trolldom ? Where do atheists come from? - opinion - 03 March 2010 - New Scientist

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    Quote Originally Posted by dot View Post
    case in point ^ . Not one responding member has read the article in the OP or the six pages of responses. lts like Leinster Hse !
    Of course we've read it, but trying to categorise atheists is something of a pointless exercise since there seems to be infinite shades of atheist whose logic and reason contradict that of the others.
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    and discombobulated secularism, unable to assert itself positively...asserts itself ..repressively."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Half Nelson View Post
    The rise in so-called atheism is a symptom of the dumbing-down of our society.
    There has never in the history of humankind been as many educated people on the planet as there is today.


    Quote Originally Posted by Half Nelson View Post
    Most self-proclaimed atheists are entirely unable to give an account of their beliefs and instead seek refuge in the herd.
    The exact same can be said of theists.


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    Simply referring to logic and reason, while simultaneously alluding to magic, when cornered, as well as the ability to insult other religions, seems to be all that is required to be an atheist.
    It is the theists who allude to supernatural abilities not the atheists.

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    Bestowing guru status on the likes of Dawkins says it all really.
    Don't all followers of a certain train of thought or trend bestow guru status on those who they believe articulate their viewpoint well. People bestow guru status on their favourite rock band, sportsperson, author, actor etc etc. Religions have their Popes, Immans, Rabbi's, Monks etc. All guru's to their followers.

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    Atheists miss the point in my opinion. Where we stand in relation to God and what he would expect from us are questions that are not really resolved by his non-existence. In my opinion the absence of God doesn't answer any questions but simply deprives us of the questions.

    Where atheists score is in their opposition to and ridicule of the people who tell us they have the answers and we need look no more. I have often wondered why those who proclaim themselves atheists live , in my experience, less "sinful" lives than the rest of us. recently someone told me (with a straight face) that the devil doesn't bother tempting atheists because he has them already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fir Bolg View Post
    There has never in the history of humankind been as many educated people on the planet as there is today.
    Don't confuse education with the intelligent use of that education.
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    The exact same can be said of theists.
    We agree then.
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    It is the theists who allude to supernatural abilities not the atheists.
    Magic - it's not defined, it just happens - magically!
    Quote Originally Posted by Fir Bolg View Post
    Don't all followers of a certain train of thought or trend bestow guru status on those who they believe articulate their viewpoint well. People bestow guru status on their favourite rock band, sportsperson, author, actor etc etc. Religions have their Popes, Immans, Rabbi's, Monks etc. All guru's to their followers.
    Yes... but Dawkins??

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    The editorial linked to at the end of that article is even more provocative; Time to accept that atheism, not god, is odd - opinion - 03 March 2010 - New Scientist
    "Je n'ai pas besoin de cette hypothèse." - Pierre-Simon de Laplace to Napoleon Bonaparte.

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