The Tricolor must be affixed to every school

[White Horse]

I agree the republic we live in now is not the one envisioned in the 1916 proclaimation. What i can't understand is your allegiance to a monarchy in this day and age, my God you actually believe the Queen is somehow annointed by God or chosen or whatever adjective you choose to use to describe her "right" to her position of wealth and privilage, as far as i'm concerned it's akin to believing in creationism, madness.

So let me ask you what would you be prepared to do in order to prevent a 32 county republic?

I am not a monarchist and am open to the possibility to a single state on the island if all traditions wish to work together.

However, the basis of that state will not be a document from 1916, it will be a negotiated agreement at a point in the future.

The 1916 proclamation is history and should be consigned to a library.

[eoghanacht]

I am not a monarchist and am open to the possibility to a single state on the island if all traditions wish to work together.

However, the basis of that state will not be a document from 1916, it will be a negotiated agreement at a point in the future.

The 1916 proclamation is history and should be consigned to a library.

Fair enough i can accept that.

[sauntersplash]

How ridiculously short-sighted. An identity is not bound up in a flag or in a man-made set of rules. And all this cos they discovered they had no culture worth talking about and which could stand the competition of Islam. Sad really.

All identity's are organised around fetishised objects such as flags, houses, cars, clothes; and all identity's consist of "man made rules". What else would they consist of?

[Monday Monday]

I think this country would be better served spending the school time, currently spent on religious indoctrination, indoctrinating children in the values of good citizenship and Republican ideals.

Eventually, in about 50 years, we might have a working country run by honourable politicians for worthy citizens.

Currently we have a barrel of weasles biting and sh-tting on each other.

[Cato]

I don't recognise the legitmacy of the free-state.

I'm glad to hear that; it not longer exists. It was abolished in 1937. Do keep up.

I was just curious as to why a poster from dundalk would be adverse to their children pledging alligiance to a republic, either the bastard one we currently abide in or the 32 county one i will hopefully live to see.

I would have no problem with a pledge of allegiance to the republic. Like you, I hope to see a 31 county republic some day (in a perfect world I'd force Cork to become a separate state and seal the border!), and more, I want to live to see a proper secular republic.

[eoghanacht]

I'm glad to hear that; it not longer exists. It was abolished in 1937. Do keep up.



I would have no problem with a pledge of allegiance to the republic. Like you, I hope to see a 31 county republic some day (in a perfect world I'd force Cork to become a separate state and seal the border!), and more, I want to live to see a proper secular republic.

As i said before i don't recognise this bastardised Republic, call it what you will, it is NOT a republic. that and allowing Cork to cede i cannot agree with.

everything else i can accept

[sauntersplash]

I think this country would be better served spending the school time, currently spent on religious indoctrination, indoctrinating children in the values of good citizenship and Republican ideals.

In your opinion, what are the chief differences between Christian "values" and the "values of good citizenship"?

[fionnmccool]

I think we should have more of a problem with people who think our flag should be hidden away shamefully than with anyone who believes it should be proudly flown in our schools.

[Cato]

As i said before i don't recognise this bastardised Republic, call it what you will, it is NOT a republic. that and allowing Cork to cede i cannot agree with.

everything else i can accept

Let us split the difference; Cork cannot cede but we still seal the internal border.

As a matter of interest what makes the republic declared in 1949 not a true republic?

[biffo50]

Flying the national flag outside schools might well be a good idea.
It might help build a sense of inclusive patriotism. After all, the tricolour's symbolism is the mixing of orange and green, different traditions coming together. Not so gone, however, on the Easter Proclamation being hung in schools, I think it was in enough places down the years and we should be encouraging our children to follow peaceful paths, rather than those of armed force.
In that context, it might be better if schools had copies of the Good Friday Agreement.
I do respect the memory of those who fought in 1916, but also that of people like John Redmond who espoused a different route.
At the same time, given that Ireland is now a multi-ethnic nation, I do feel it important to inculcate a sense of belonging in all children. I recall that when my stepson was in school in England, St George's Day was marked by all children dressing in red, white and blue.