Atheists are having it too easy.

[Gadjodilo]

Er, yes he did. What was all that waffle about "what do the nasty atheists have to say about abortion, gay marriage etc? How come you can be a child abuser and an atheist? Atheists are mass murderers, boo hoo"

OP was a load of raving nonsense frankly.

*snip rant*

Poor. Pretty poor. You haven't engaged any of the arguments at all. But if you feel you have vented your bile sufficiently, feel free to scamper off and wee-wee on some other thread.

[Gadjodilo]

Nonsense.

Atheists sit behind the same wheel as Christians.

And also, to be an atheist in this Country, requires more principles, not less.

Crowded driving seat, that.

Anyway, what extra principles do you need to be an atheist in Ireland?

[Almanac]

Er, yes he did. What was all that waffle about "what do the nasty atheists have to say about abortion, gay marriage etc? How come you can be a child abuser and an atheist? Atheists are mass murderers, boo hoo"

I fail to see the religious part.

[SideysGhost]

Poor. Pretty poor. You haven't engaged any of the arguments at all.

What "argument" did you make?

You whined a lot about how atheists don't have a unified moral code of teachings and that this is somehow "unfair". You show a complete lack of understanding of what atheism actually is. You believe that the ritualised cannibalistic consumption of the flesh of a 2000 year old Jewish zombie will bring you a form of immortality, and that this gives you the right to enforce your views on the rest of the country. You think an invisible man in the sky is constantly watching you and keeping tabs on your behaviour, especially in your bedroom, and that the country needs laws to stop anyone anywhere from doing anything that the invisible sky man might not approve of. You know exactly what the invisible sky man approves and disapproves of, cos a bunch of camel herders in the desert on magic mushrooms many thousands of years ago wrote it all down.

By any objective view, yer a nutter, plain and simple.

[Gadjodilo]

What "argument" did you make?

You whined a lot about how atheists don't have a unified moral code of teachings and that this is somehow "unfair". You show a complete lack of understanding of what atheism actually is. You believe that the ritualised cannibalistic consumption of the flesh of a 2000 year old Jewish zombie will bring you a form of immortality, and that this gives you the right to enforce your views on the rest of the country. You think an invisible man in the sky is constantly watching you and keeping tabs on your behaviour, especially in your bedroom, and that the country needs laws to stop anyone anywhere from doing anything that the invisible sky man might not approve of. You know exactly what the invisible sky man approves and disapproves of, cos a bunch of camel herders in the desert on magic mushrooms many thousands of years ago wrote it all down.

By any objective view, yer a nutter, plain and simple.

You should really take a leaf from the other atheists on this thread who are able to argue without this juvenile trolling.

I can only assume you haven't been reading this thread. I made my argument plain in the original post and summarised it in post #9.

And where did I say that "that this gives [me] the right to enforce [my] views on the rest of the country"?

[EvotingMachine0197]

Crowded driving seat, that.

Anyway, what extra principles do you need to be an atheist in Ireland?

Big car.

Depends. Are you talikng about christians or catholics ?

Plenty of atheists round these parts. I dunno, maybe the principle of keeping ones principles in the face of tyrrany ?

Maybe tyrrany is too strong a word.

[Feelinglost]

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[ibis]

Ah, the personal abuse starts already. I doubt that believing in a god would make you less insulting but it is interesting how many atheists jump into these debates spewing invective all around them. If (as some atheists say), intolerance is a hallmark of religions, then you could tick one of the atheism-as-religion boxes.

Anyway, taking a moral stance on an issue would not turn it into a religion. Do you seriously think that only religions do that?

Well, no, but it tends to be religions that mandate a particular moral stance on an issue from their adherents. Atheists are entirely free to take whatever personal moral stance on an issue they choose, and those stances usually cover the whole available spectrum. On abortion, for example, I know atheists that are as just as opposed to it as any gun-toting fundie, and I also know atheists who don't regard it as any more morally significant than taking a dump. The relevant point here is that none of those positions are mandated by "atheist central", and none claim to be authoritative - they're just people's personal stances.

There is no "atheism", there are only atheists.

[Almanac]

Well, no, but it tends to be religions that mandate a particular moral stance on an issue from their adherents. Atheists are entirely free to take whatever personal moral stance on an issue they choose, and those stances usually cover the whole available spectrum. On abortion, for example, I know atheists that are as just as opposed to it as any gun-toting fundie, and I also know atheists who don't regard it as any more morally significant than taking a dump. The relevant point here is that none of those positions are mandated by "atheist central", and none claim to be authoritative - they're just people's personal stances.

There is no "atheism", there are only atheists.

So there is no such thing as belief either? Only believers?

[Gadjodilo]

Big car.

Depends. Are you talikng about christians or catholics ?

Plenty of atheists round these parts. I dunno, maybe the principle of keeping ones principles in the face of tyrrany ?

Maybe tyrrany is too strong a word.

If you want to be a national school teacher, you have to teach the children a lot of religious stuff that I'd have a problem with and I'm sure atheists would too. Re Catholic v Christian, I've seen stuff happening in schools like ashes being put on the foreheads of non-RC kids on Ash Wednesday.

That's one area I can think of.