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    Atheism is just a big empty hole.
    The truth is incontrovertible, malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end; there it is.

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    In Christianity, God has already resolved himself into the Holy Spirit, i.e. the Spirit of the Community of Believers. This is why Liberation Theology has been been such a challenge to the Neo-Pagans in Rome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gadjodilo View Post
    Eh?
    I would have at one time responded with, Horses eat it. (in the UK)

    I repeat the failure of theists to publicly acknowledge their most secret belief, is sad to behold.


    Here we are with the finest brain in the animal world and a majority of human beings still refuse to unleash it's full power in their own mind!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gadjodilo View Post
    That's the problem with complex belief systems. There are so many injunctions with regard to behaviour, so many thou shalts and shalt nots that it's all too easy to find someone who espouses the religion in question yet is transgressing in some way. Errare humanum est.
    There's only 8 'thou shalt nots' and 2 'thou shalts' and didn't Jesus break them down into just two commandments! Not a very complex belief system if you ask me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gadjodilo View Post
    Christianity is about a lot more than a vengeful God. Yes, we’ve seen the abuses inflicted on children and vulnerable women by Christian run organisations – especially those of the Roman Catholic Church. However, bear in mind that in pre-Christian European societies, disabled newborn babies (and often able-bodied girls) were put to death or left to die of exposure.
    So, little differences then between the Roman Catholic Church and pre-Christian European societies.
    I watched with glee, while your kings and queens, fought for ten decades for the gods they made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gadjodilo View Post
    Firstly, there is no obfuscation in the first post. It's perfectly clear.

    Secondly, personally speaking, I'm not putting a burden of proof on any atheist to prove (or rather disprove) anything. I merely said the argument is unprovable and I said that to indicate that the exchanges are pointless. It's faith vs science. They're different ballgames with different rules and while I suppose it was inevitable that the thread would develop in this way, I didn't start this thread to have a debate on whether or not God exists or where the burden of proof lies.
    I never said you obfuscated in the first post. You are obfuscating by trying to confuse the fact that you brought up (on more than one occasion) the burdens of proof.

    Edit: Just before I wrote this post a three-handed leprachaun gave me an eleven euro note and told me to go the butchers and buy some A4 paper. Prove that wrong because I utterly believe it. Faith vs. science? I don't think so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew49 View Post
    There's only 8 'thou shalt nots' and 2 'thou shalts' and didn't Jesus break them down into just two commandments! Not a very complex belief system if you ask me.
    Clearly you haven't looked at Aquinas' Summa Theologica!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twin Towers View Post
    Atheism is just a big empty hole.
    An abyss of hopelessness and despair that contradicts our very nature.
    "The perfect liberty they seek is the liberty of making slaves of other people." -- Abraham Lincoln


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cael View Post
    In Christianity, God has already resolved himself into the Holy Spirit, i.e. the Spirit of the Community of Believers. This is why Liberation Theology has been been such a challenge to the Neo-Pagans in Rome.
    This post is amazing. It manages to combine theological ignorance, with historical nonsense, all blended with philosophical gibberish. Please try harder.
    "Je n'ai pas besoin de cette hypothèse." - Pierre-Simon de Laplace to Napoleon Bonaparte.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Almanac View Post
    An abyss of hopelessness and despair that contradicts our very nature.
    That has not been my experience of it. How does it contradict our very nature? While you're at it; what is our 'nature'?
    "Je n'ai pas besoin de cette hypothèse." - Pierre-Simon de Laplace to Napoleon Bonaparte.

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    I think that the "third party" rule should be invoked here.
    If your religion calls for you to bay at the moon at midnight, then bang ahead sunshine.
    So long as you do not keep me awake or frighten the horses, I don't mind.
    Whatever rows your boat,.... and all that.
    At the end of the day a believer will still believe no matter what I say to him or her.
    Why should I make the mistake of evangilising my athiesm when it might remove a crutch a vulnerable person might be depending on.
    While happy in my athiesm I have to admit that it might not be everybodies cup of tea.
    It is very much a "stand on your own two feet" type of stance without the comfort blanket of a personal father figure who wraps his arms around you and says "Well done my good and faithfull servant". Or words to that effect.
    I would be just as opposed to athiest fundalmentalism as religious fundalmentalism.
    Whats the point ? We won't get any brownie points for saving souls ! Live and let live, eh ?

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