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    'Sharp decline' in faith as number of Christians in Britain falls to half

    If we had a similar campaign of advertisement of Atheist/Humanist culture here as they have had in Britain, could we hope that religion would also diminish in this country?

    I like the application of scientific terminology to describe the spiraling decay of religious influence, poetic almost.

    Prof Voas added: ‘The results suggest that institutional religion in Britain now has a half-life of one generation, to borrow the terminology of radioactive decay.
    ‘Two non-religious parents successfully transmit their lack of religion. Two religious parents have roughly a 50/50 chance of passing on the faith. One religious parent does only half as well as two together.’
    However, we should be careful to find a replacement for these obsolete belief systems as...

    However, the study showed most people believe the lack of belief is having a negative impact on modern society.

    Read more: 'Sharp decline' in faith as number of Christians in Britain falls to half | Mail Online
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oppenheimer View Post
    If we had a similar campaign of advertisement of Atheist/Humanist culture here as they have had in Britain, could we hope that religion would also diminish in this country?

    I like the application of scientific terminology to describe the spiraling decay of religious influence, poetic almost.



    However, we should be careful to find a replacement for these obsolete belief systems as...



    Read more: 'Sharp decline' in faith as number of Christians in Britain falls to half
    This is because of Anti-Christian Secularism that is encouraged in the UK....

    A Place where a girl and boy meet.... have kids, get married and then die.

    A Place where children are only baptised so they can get into the CoE School

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    Alot of these surveys are inherently unsatisfatory and they generally contradict each other. A simple Google search pulls out of the magician's hat survey evidence based on 7,000 people, a much larger sample than the one cited in your link, which says that church attendance is actually up in the UK over the past number of years.

    Which one is accurate? Impossible to say - but wouldn't be surprised if both were inaccurate. But best to put both into the arena as then everyone can spin whichever they want, to reflect their point of view - as that is what these threads generally descend into.

    Should also be noted that the one you link takes as its measure 2009 versus 1983 as the example of the decline. Why was 1983 picked, why not 1999? It would be more interesting to see what change has occurred since the beginning of this decade, rather than what happened a quarter of a century ago.

    Number of churchgoers rises by 5% in a year

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaBrow View Post
    This is because of Anti-Christian Secularism that is encouraged in the UK....

    A Place where a girl and boy meet.... have kids, get married and then die.

    A Place where children are only baptised so they can get into the CoE School
    I would have thought that secularism was equally dismissive of all religious dogma. The perception that it is "Anti-Christian" surely comes from the fact that, by and large, the numbers of religious in Britain were Christian and therefore it has had the largest bite to its influence taken.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaBrow View Post
    A Place where a girl and boy meet.... have kids, get married and then die.

    A Place where children are only baptised so they can get into the CoE School
    What part is different from Ireland?

    If we had a similar campaign of advertisement of Atheist/Humanist culture here as they have had in Britain, could we hope that religion would also diminish in this country?
    What do you mean by Humanist?

    I'm not necessarily for less religion per se, I'm more concerned with the Freedom and liberty of expression. Someones shouldn't be able to impose their fantasy on you but that in turn means the freedom to be religious and not have atheism forced on you. What we need is church/state secular divide.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Caped Cod View Post
    What part is different from Ireland?


    What do you mean by Humanist?

    I'm not necessarily for less religion per se, I'm more concerned with the Freedom and liberty of expression. Someones shouldn't be able to impose their fantasy on you but that in turn means the freedom to be religious and not have atheism forced on you. What we need is church/state secular divide.
    Its in reference to the "Probably no god" campaign which was the idea of the British humanist association.....

    The atheist posters are the idea of the British Humanist Association (BHA) and have been supported by prominent atheist Professor Richard Dawkins.
    BBC NEWS | UK | England | London | 'No God' slogans for city's buses
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oppenheimer View Post
    Its in reference to the "Probably no god" campaign which was the idea of the British humanist association.....

    BBC NEWS | UK | England | London | 'No God' slogans for city's buses
    Richard Dawkins is a Hypocrite.... He has called himself a Cultural Christian.

    So I don't believe he has much credibility now on saying God Doesn't Exist...

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    In Ireland... A Boy & Girl Meet, Get Married and then have kids. That is the proper way of doing things.

    Couples who shack up together and then have kids before getting married or never bother, are just knackers and lowlife scum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaBrow View Post
    Richard Dawkins is a Hypocrite.... He has called himself a Cultural Christian.

    So I don't believe he has much credibility now on saying God Doesn't Exist...
    My opinion is that "credibility" should not be attached to anyone who claims a god does or does not exist. As for calling him a hypocrite well that is the equivalent of the concept of original sin - we are all guilty of that one time or another.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oppenheimer View Post
    My opinion is that "credibility" should not be attached to anyone who claims a god does or does not exist. As for calling him a hypocrite well that is the equivalent of the concept of original sin - we are all guilty of that one time or another.
    As an Athiest, you don't believe in the concept because that is a doctrine of religious teaching... which you reject along with other moral teaching that a faith preaches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaBrow View Post
    As an Athiest, you don't believe in the concept because that is a doctrine of religious teaching... which you reject along with other moral teaching that a faith preaches.
    I am not an atheist - I choose to not care one way or the other. Some refer to this as agnosticism. I don't reject moral teaching I believe that religion does not have monopolistic rights to setting moral standards. We all know the phrase "treat me like a human being" well that is the start of it for me - people first, things second.
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