MPAC.IE - who are they?

[Clanrickard]

I've never met an Irish Muslim,as opposed to Muslims who live in Ireland.JWs are doing quite well round here and Pentecostalists.Converts are often a bit fanatical - maybe egan is going through a phase? Come to think of it there a quite a few Irish Buddhists,but they don't make the news much.

Then again when Buddhists, Jews or Pentecostalists get peed off they don't go around rioting and blowing things up. Hence the need for vigilance with Muslims.

[muzzylogik]

For the past month I’ve been confronting “MPAC.IE” and Liam ‘Mujaahid” Egan on his website. I have also contacted Catherine Reilly- deputy editor of Metro Eireann the paper that’s given Egan a column and a national platform to spread his hateful message, he misrepresented himself as the “South East Manager” of an advocacy group that speaks for Muslims in Ireland. I cannot fathom how what amounts to a personal blog operating from Egan’s spare room and with the odd help of one or two accomplices in the UK can suddenly be elevated to a “Muslim Public Affairs Committee” with imaginary “branches” around the country and given media attention. Egan’s reaction has been very revealing

I confronted him about their membership (which he refused to answer) and allegations regarding Saudi funding (which he evaded). Tellingly when his sympathies with that regime were outlined and the allegations that were made that he openly stated that he was being funded by the Saudis to propagate there Wahhabi views in Ireland were brought to the surface, his reaction was to delete the post on the MPAC.IE website (replaced with the phrase “Removed – we will not give oxygen to those who accept some of Allah’s book and reject the rest) I was also blocked from the website which prompted me to republish the deleted posts here “MPACIE Stifling the Voices of Irish Muslims With Extremism.”

A more sinister sequence of events unfolded when I was then accused of being a Kaffir or “infidel” as I refuse to endorse the fundamentalists’ interpretation of Sharia Law which they use to promote the stoning of women and the killing of apostates and homosexuals. I was told by Liam ‘Mujaahid” Egan that I would be referred to scholars (I assume his Saudi mentors) for a ruling or fatwa.
I was born in Saudi and I have family there It’s a matter of great concern to me as people there have been jailed and attacked for much less. Frankly if I am attacked or held the next time I visit because of this “fatwa” I consider MPACIE and Egan complicit and hope the Gardai will act. Nevertheless I will not stay silent and let this extremist propagate his hateful Wahhabi ideology in Ireland which I consider to be my adopted home and to that effect I’ve issued a statement that speaks for many of the Muslims in Ireland whom I have encountered who are horrified by MPAC.IE’s views.

This does come across as special pleading and from an immigrant no less. I've followed your regurgitated rants on the MPAC website with interest and note that while Egan has freely answered questions, you have been quite evasive. So, I'm going to post those questions here and call you to answer them:

Along with the rejection of aspects of the hudood, might we ask Kabour if he also rejects the following:

1. The belief that there is no other religion acceptable to Allah except Al Islam
2. That those who willfully reject Islam are destined to the hellfire wherein they will suffer torment without respite
3. That Allah promised the dominion of Islam to His Messenger and that Islam will one day dominate the world

Your continued aversion to answering these simple questions is very telling.

As for Gardai involvement, it was you who freely offered your opinion. Egan didn't make a statement either way.

I think if you're going to convince Muslims that MPAC are wrong you're going to have to use Islamic texts as they do, 'sycophantic rhetoric' (Mr Egan's words) isn't enough.

[The Fusilier]

This does come across as special pleading and from an immigrant no less. I've followed your regurgitated rants on the MPAC website with interest and note that while Egan has freely answered questions, you have been quite evasive. So, I'm going to post those questions here and call you to answer them:


Your continued aversion to answering these simple questions is very telling.

As for Gardai involvement, it was you who freely offered your opinion. Egan didn't make a statement either way.

I think if you're going to convince Muslims that MPAC are wrong you're going to have to use Islamic texts as they do, 'sycophantic rhetoric' (Mr Egan's words) isn't enough.

How many usernames do you have, Liam?

[oceanclub]

This does come across as special pleading and from an immigrant no less. I've followed your regurgitated rants on the MPAC website with interest and note that while Egan has freely answered questions, you have been quite evasive. So, I'm going to post those questions here and call you to answer them:

Egan freely answers questions? Please stop having us on. I have a list of questions as long as my arm that Liam wouldn't answer on this site. (Needless to say, when I posted on mpac.ie, I've been selectively moderated, so no longer bother).

Of course, I'm answering this assuming you aren't Egan himself which, considering he has barely any cronies, is a bit of a stretch. Certainly, based on Google search, the only person to have ever uttered the sentence "Allah promised the dominion of Islam to His Messenger and that Islam will one day dominate the world" is Liam himself.

It's a bit rich to ban someone from your web site, then complain they didnt't answer a question you asked them.

P.

[Nodin]

Then again when Buddhists, Jews or Pentecostalists get peed off they don't go around rioting and blowing things up.

Rioting over opening a car park on the sabbath
Ultra-Orthodox Jews Riot Over Parking Lot Being Opened On Sabbath (VIDEO)

......detention of a woman for child neglect
Ultra-Orthodox Jews riot over mom?s arrest - Israel-Palestinians- msnbc.com

and over gays....musn't forget the gays....
Blinkx Video: JERUSALEM: Hundreds of Orthodox Jews riot in Jerusalem after Attorney General overrules police ban on gay parade

[zippo222]

How many usernames do you have, Liam?

He gets mixed up himself about who he's supposed to be when he's posting. Four weeks ago on the thread entitled IRAQI OILFIELDS AUCTIONED ............. Post 28 he claimed he was an Iraqi living in Dublin.


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[oceanclub]

Rioting over opening a car park on the sabbath
Ultra-Orthodox Jews Riot Over Parking Lot Being Opened On Sabbath (VIDEO)

My favourite is all the various sects of Christian priests that have occasional punch-ups over their share in the Church of the Nativity in Bethlehem. Talk about facepalm.

Seven hurt in punch-up at Church of the Nativity - Times Online

P.

[Nodin]

My favourite is all the various sects of Christian priests that have occasional punch-ups over their share in the Church of the Nativity in Bethlehem. Talk about facepalm.

Seven hurt in punch-up at Church of the Nativity - Times Online

P.

Aye, its like an Irish wedding, but with more beards.....

[muzzylogik]

He gets mixed up himself about who he's supposed to be when he's posting. Four weeks ago on the thread entitled IRAQI OILFIELDS AUCTIONED ............. Post 28 he claimed he was an Iraqi living in Dublin.


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Mixed up - I don't recall saying anything different Zippo. Let me reiterate, I knew nothing of MPAC before I came on here.

But why is Friar Mo (Mohammad Al Kabour) not answering those questions? I'll tell you why, if he agrees he is exposing his lack of moderation and will loose associates and if he disagrees he has exposed his disbelief - in which case he will lose any Muslims that have been fooled by him. It's a lose/lose scenario and that's why he won't answer.

As for me, this will be my last post for a few months - business trip tomorrow.

[Fraxinus_]

Then again when Buddhists, Jews or Pentecostalists get peed off they don't go around rioting and blowing things up. Hence the need for vigilance with Muslims.

Responsibility claimed for abortion clinic bomb http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...5/ai_20334585/

Yep Christians certainly are a peaceful bunch.