MPAC.IE - who are they?

[Dr Qasim Afridi]

The worst Muslim is better than the best kafir Dr Afridi, MPAC don't extol the Saudis but acknowledge that their weaknesses still place them on a higher moral and ethical plane than all the western kuffar leaders.

You miss the point entirely... and this is because you are in a primitive muslim/kuffar frame of mind...

You should know the punishment for treason against Muslims is harsh... Just remember this bit...

As for the politicians in the west... Why go after them? They are making our work easier everyday by leading their own people on the path to destruction... (if that is what we want considering the western nations are our rivals)... Get your own house in order mate... Leave these people alone... They have no claim of being Muslims so I dont expect anything from them except what they do...

[FriarMo]

The only questions they answered were about links with Saudi Arabia (mpac.ie deny being funded by the Saudis) but they didn't answer any of the other questions.

Here are the questions again, with some attempts at answers.

Who are MPAC.IE?

Nobody knows. Although Eoin Whelan and Liam Egan, both Irish Muslims, appear to be leading members.

How many members do they have?

Nobody knows. However, mpac.ie has 12 members (including Egan and Whelan) in its forum.

How are they funded?

Nobody knows.

Who funds them?

Nobody knows, although they claim it's not the Saudis.

How representative of Irish Muslims are they?

Nobody knows.

As the person named by Antiphon I can tell you that my questions were not at all answered to my satisfaction (not even regarding Saudi funding) and I have posted follow up questions on the mpac.ie site to address the vagueness and inconsistencies in the response I have up till now received.

Mohammed AlKabour

[eyeswideopen]

Well, if they are not provocateurs, they are doing a fantastically good imitation.


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[b.a. baracus]

The worst Muslim is better than the best kafir Dr Afridi, MPAC don't extol the Saudis but acknowledge that their weaknesses still place them on a higher moral and ethical plane than all the western kuffar leaders.

It is this sort of deluded tripe that ensures you remain as a laughing stock. Fool.

[Trampas]

The worst Muslim is better than the best kafir Dr Afridi........

.........and let nobody forget that.

[Antiphon]

.........and let nobody forget that.

Absolutely. In the sight of Allah, obedience and submission to Islam is paramount

[Trampas]

Absolutely. In the sight of Allah, obedience and submission to Islam is paramount

.......with submission to the Flying Spaghetti Monster coming a close second.

[Garland Names the Planets]

Absolutely. In the sight of Allah, obedience and submission to Islam is paramount

The best mpaccer is less than the worst rodent in the sight of Garland. Wahhabist creationist 7th century caravan raider worshippers. If they had brains they\d be dangerous

[darkhorse]

I don't see what this obsession with assimiliation is all about.

As long as immigrants don't do anything to harm other people, then why should they have to assimilate to Irish cultural norms?

There are plenty of Irish cultural norms that I'm glad that some immigrants haven't assimilated to: binge-drinking, tax evasion, corruption...

Assimilation is a long, slow process anyway - it takes several generations, not years.

Don't assume that I'm attacking an immigrant group or immigrants in general simply because I'm asking questions about mpac.ie

According to their website they want to influence Irish politics and society.

I started this thread to find out more information about them and to try to find out whether or not they had a realistic chance of achieving their goals.

From the limited information that's become available, it seems that this 'Muslim group' is simply a handful of self-appointed individuals who have almost zero influence anywhere and who've made almost zero impact on Irish politics.

Agreed about MPAC - it seems to be nothing of any significance - apart from the potential for terrorism which should be monitored by the Gardai
I am not attacking any immigrant groups either but I think there is a culture in Ireland in which we think that its our responsability to help out anyone in the entire world who is in need.
To be granted citizenship of Ireland, I think that non nationals should have to:
- pass a Junior Cert exam in Gaelige and Irish history
- pay PRSI or income taxes for 5 years
- revoke their citizenship of other countries
- declare an oath of loyalty to the Republic and its aims.
- no criminal record in country of origin or in Ireland
Right now the requirements for citizenship are very basic and amount to living in Ireland for a total 1 year within the last 5 years.
So basically anyone in the world can become an Irish citizen if they so wish.
Becoming an Irish citizen through naturalisation
Compare Australia, UK or USA and you will see how over generous we are.

[Antiphon]

Agreed about MPAC - it seems to be nothing of any significance - apart from the potential for terrorism which should be monitored by the Gardai
I am not attacking any immigrant groups either but I think there is a culture in Ireland in which we think that its our responsability to help out anyone in the entire world who is in need.
To be granted citizenship of Ireland, I think that non nationals should have to:
- pass a Junior Cert exam in Gaelige and Irish history
- pay PRSI or income taxes for 5 years
- revoke their citizenship of other countries
- declare an oath of loyalty to the Republic and its aims.
- no criminal record in country of origin or in Ireland
Right now the requirements for citizenship are very basic and amount to living in Ireland for a total 1 year within the last 5 years.
So basically anyone in the world can become an Irish citizen if they so wish.
Becoming an Irish citizen through naturalisation
Compare Australia, UK or USA and you will see how over generous we are.

You might like to know that all MPAC.ie contributors are Irish.