MPAC.IE - who are they?

[oceanclub]

Have you asked them why the forum was removed or is that just an assumption?

Oh, just a pure coincidence, Eoin. Pure coincidence.

By the way, their web stats indicate a steady rise since their split with the UK branch.

"Their" web stats? It's funny how you talk about MPAC and "they", yet appear to have acceess to their web stats. Another pure coincidence, I'm sure.

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[oceanclub]

They don't seem to be listening to you Ocean. Did you read this week's MetroEireann?

Considering I only sent the letter today, Eoin, I'm sure it has had no effect yet.

P.

[muzzylogik]

Considering I only sent the letter today, Eoin, I'm sure it has had no effect yet.

P.

They may see that as free publicity?

By the way the stats are available to anyone. Do a Google search.

[Camper Van]

The greatest disgrace in all of this is that the Irish Times, The Metro, The Sunday Times and Irish Independent have seen fit to interview MPAC.IE as though MPAC.IE were representative of Muslim Ireland

This is just sloppy journalism - but dangerous as it funnels recruits to MPAC.IE- for what purpose ?

cYp

Indeed. I see that the scumbag is mentioned on the front page of todays Sunday Times in relation to some Lebanese "asylum" seeker who wants to bring in his second wife from Lebanon and how we as a nation are discriminating. What a joke that is anyway but If these hacks bothered taking one look at mpac.ie they would think twice about taking quotes from that piece of sh*t.

[cyberianpan]

Indeed. I see that the scumbag is mentioned on the front page of todays Sunday Times in relation to some Lebanese "asylum" seeker who wants to bring in his second wife from Lebanon and how we as a nation are discriminating. What a joke that is anyway but If these hacks bothered taking one look at mpac.ie they would think twice about taking quotes from that piece of sh*t.

The problem is that in the media, he takes a moderate Islamic position, whereas on the website he is much more extreme - this is classic recruiting tactics.

As Oceanclub suggests we need to alert the news outlets to their error - I'm testing one of them now - and if not successful I'll use other channels

cYp

[oceanclub]

Indeed. I see that the scumbag is mentioned on the front page of todays Sunday Times in relation to some Lebanese "asylum" seeker who wants to bring in his second wife from Lebanon and how we as a nation are discriminating. What a joke that is anyway but If these hacks bothered taking one look at mpac.ie they would think twice about taking quotes from that piece of sh*t.

I've mailed mark.tighe@sunday-times.ie, the author of the piece, about using sources such as Liam Egan as representative of Irish muslims as a whole. I would suggest that anyone else concerned about good race relations in this country, should do the same.

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[cry freedom]

I think it's you who ought to stick to the subject. You've gone from 'enemies' to 'all Muslims' that's quite a leap. On the video, Awlaki says that 'your neighbour may well be a nice person, but we don't judge kufr based on the ordinary people but rather the leaders'. It isn't the ordinary people who wage wars, but governments, so the ruling is based on their actions not ordinary people.

I wouldn' really worry too much about these deluded towel heads.
I mean if we in the West were really in danger of being taken over against our will, we could always nuke Mecca or Medina [or both].

[rasoo1]

I wouldn' really worry too much about these deluded towel heads.
I mean if we in the West were really in danger of being taken over against our will, we could always nuke Mecca or Medina [or both].

And what would that achieve?
This is an ideological struggle - not a military one. Victory will be achieved in such things as bringing in blasphemy laws, censorship of freedom of expression,persecution of ex-Muslims/gays/jews - and tolerance of this, the rolling back of human rights in the world etc.

Also you may wish to avoid terms like "towel heads".

[muzzylogik]

And what would that achieve?
This is an ideological struggle - not a military one. Victory will be achieved in such things as bringing in blasphemy laws, censorship of freedom of expression,persecution of ex-Muslims/gays/jews - and tolerance of this, the rolling back of human rights in the world etc.

Also you may wish to avoid terms like "towel heads".

It is indeed an ideological struggle in Ireland and the Blasphemy law is a helpful start. But censoring freedom of expression I have a problem with that one. Non-Muslims should be allowed to challenge Muslims on their beliefs and practices, but where that freedom becomes an excuse for hate then there needs to be a cut-off point. Ex-Muslims/gays/jews or whatever group should be afforded the basic rights anyone would grant any human. However, when their seek to enforce their choices upon Muslims then there must be some means of redress.

[Camper Van]

"As an Iraqi living in Dublin I must say this is terrible news. The puppet government has not and will not work in the interests of ordinary Iraqis. The sooner the better America and her allies leave so we can begin to sort out the mess the west has put us in"

http://www.politics.ie/foreign-affai...ml#post2339651

A post of yours from before xmas. You are beyond pathetic. What part of Iraq are you supposedly from Egan? Did you take a break from the forum so that this might be forgotten-until you realised that they arent accepting new users on P.ie now and you still have to use "muzzylogic"?