MPAC.IE - who are they?

[muzzylogik]

I thought that you had gone aborad for a while, possibly to engage in a spot of caravan raiding like your 'prophet' (MHBIH). You had suggested that this would prevent you from posting here. What happy circumstance has lead you back to this site?

I was away, for over a month Cato.

[oceanclub]

Shouldn't Muslims have the right to defend themselves Ocean?

Oh, well, I leave it up to others to decide what this think by the phrase "defence force".

Al Awlaki hasn't been convicted of any of those allegations, and the Irish are should be the last people to point fingers with regard to allegations.

Are you denying that he wrote such books as "44 Ways to Support Jihad", which contains the line "The hatred of kuffar [non-Muslims] is a central element of our military creed"?

P.

[muzzylogik]

Oh, well, I leave it up to others to decide what this think by the phrase "defence force".



Are you denying that he wrote such books as "44 Ways to Support Jihad", which contains the line "The hatred of kuffar [non-Muslims] is a central element of our military creed"?

P.

Actually, it's not a book but a transcript of a lecture. Few Muslims would disagree with the content in general but there does need to be a discussion among the community on Jihad and its meaning in the 21st century (I'm not calling for abandonment as Jihad will be with the Muslims until the last day). There's little disagreement on the right of defence in Iraq, Afghanistan, Palestine, Yemen, etc.

[oceanclub]

Stop nitpicking; it's beneath you. MPAC has posted an article about a "defence force" containing a video from a man who claims "The hatred of kuffar is a central element of our military creed. We need to realize that Allah will not grant us victory as long as we still have some love towards his enemies in our hearts." As such, the video is an incitement to hatred and contains a man who makes specific reference to military action.

P.

[biffo50]

Fair play to FriarMo for clear answers and for distancing moderate Muslims from the extremist Wahabbi rhetoric. I would be concerned about extremism growing here as in Britain but am glad to hear of Muslims here taking steps to distance themselves from it.
One of the contributors said he had never met an Irish Muslim. I assure him I've met several, I have a cousin who is a Muslim.
MPAC seem to be complete headbangers.

[muzzylogik]

Stop nitpicking; it's beneath you. MPAC has posted an article about a "defence force" containing a video from a man who claims "The hatred of kuffar is a central element of our military creed. We need to realize that Allah will not grant us victory as long as we still have some love towards his enemies in our hearts." As such, the video is an incitement to hatred and contains a man who makes specific reference to military action.

P.

You deduce it's an incitement to hatred because he calls Muslims to defend their lands. Wouldn't that make the actions of the Americans and their supporters 'acts of hatred'?

Do you think you should show love for someone who has just killed members of your family? Less of the hypocrisy, please.

[muzzylogik]

Fair play to FriarMo for clear answers and for distancing moderate Muslims from the extremist Wahabbi rhetoric. I would be concerned about extremism growing here as in Britain but am glad to hear of Muslims here taking steps to distance themselves from it.
One of the contributors said he had never met an Irish Muslim. I assure him I've met several, I have a cousin who is a Muslim.
MPAC seem to be complete headbangers.

Friar Mo certainly seems to have many commendations from non-Muslims, but very few if any from the Muslim community. He comes across as the Irish equivalent of Ayann Hirsi Ali.

[oceanclub]

You deduce it's an incitement to hatred because he calls Muslims to defend their lands.

No, I deduce it's an incitement to hatred because he says:

"The hatred of kuffar [non-Muslims] is a central element of our military creed."

You really are a moron.

P.

[muzzylogik]

Fair play to FriarMo for clear answers and for distancing moderate Muslims from the extremist Wahabbi rhetoric. I would be concerned about extremism growing here as in Britain but am glad to hear of Muslims here taking steps to distance themselves from it.
One of the contributors said he had never met an Irish Muslim. I assure him I've met several, I have a cousin who is a Muslim.
MPAC seem to be complete headbangers.

Could you tell us what these Muslims you claim to have met disagree with biffo?

[muzzylogik]

No, I deduce it's an incitement to hatred because he says:

"The hatred of kuffar [non-Muslims] is a central element of our military creed."

You really are a moron.

P.

Are you saying that an American soldier firing upon Muslims in Iraq and Afghanistan is displaying his love for Muslims?