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    "Naked" - deliberate handball. Did Keane DELIBERATELY handball? That is the iisue.
    No it isn't. The 'issue' is whether Henry deserves to be labelled a cheat because of this one handball (which nobody has ever denied was deliberate). I do not believe this to be the case. You do. We will have to disagree.

    As for Keane, whether or not he deliberately handballed on this occasion, I have no doubt whatsoever that he has done so on many occasions. Just as he has called for free kicks and penalties which he knows his team did not deserve. And so on. In other words, he 's no different to any footballer in the world.

    As I say, I don't think there's much point continuing to discuss this particular issue. As far as I'm concerned, Henry committed a routine foul - albeit one with devastating consequences for Ireland - but his 'crime' was not in itself a heinous one.The demonisation of him, and the special pleading from the FAI and football gobs***s, has been rather overblown, to say the least.

    What is far more intersting to me is how, if at all, this incident reflects on our national psyche. That's much more interesting than comparing the degree of 'deliberation' in Henry's and Keane's handball fouls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Interista View Post
    No it isn't. The 'issue' is whether Henry deserves to be labelled a cheat because of this one handball (which nobody has ever denied was deliberate). I do not believe this to be the case. You do. We will have to disagree.

    As for Keane, whether or not he deliberately handballed on this occasion, I have no doubt whatsoever that he has done so on many occasions. Just as he has called for free kicks and penalties which he knows his team did not deserve. And so on. In other words, he 's no different to any footballer in the world.

    As I say, I don't think there's much point continuing to discuss this particular issue. As far as I'm concerned, Henry committed a routine foul - albeit one with devastating consequences for Ireland - but his 'crime' was not in itself a heinous one.The demonisation of him, and the special pleading from the FAI and football gobs***s, has been rather overblown, to say the least.

    What is far more intersting to me is how, if at all, this incident reflects on our national psyche. That's much more interesting than comparing the degree of 'deliberation' in Henry's and Keane's handball fouls.

    "reflects on our national psyche"? - oh, don't throw the actions of a cheat on the Irish. Usual crap.

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    don't throw the actions of a cheat on the Irish. Usual crap.
    Spectacular misreading of my post.

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    How many "scousers" like me would take a deliberate handball for a French team right now???
    We need to radically change every system that has enabled the wholesale destruction of the Irish landscape, rural and urban. There is no time for incremental step by step measures. The systems have failed utterly and the only hope for a real recovery requires the rule book to be torn up completely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Interista View Post
    No it isn't. The 'issue' is whether Henry deserves to be labelled a cheat because of this one handball (which nobody has ever denied was deliberate). I do not believe this to be the case. You do. We will have to disagree.

    As for Keane, whether or not he deliberately handballed on this occasion, I have no doubt whatsoever that he has done so on many occasions. Just as he has called for free kicks and penalties which he knows his team did not deserve. And so on. In other words, he 's no different to any footballer in the world.

    As I say, I don't think there's much point continuing to discuss this particular issue. As far as I'm concerned, Henry committed a routine foul - albeit one with devastating consequences for Ireland - but his 'crime' was not in itself a heinous one.The demonisation of him, and the special pleading from the FAI and football gobs***s, has been rather overblown, to say the least.

    What is far more intersting to me is how, if at all, this incident reflects on our national psyche. That's much more interesting than comparing the degree of 'deliberation' in Henry's and Keane's handball fouls.
    it was 2 handballs , and his own countrymen and media are branding him a disgrace also .

    national psyche ffs

    anyway how the mighty have fallen . Now Roy Keane is of absolutely no further use to him his old chum and mentor , Eammon Dunphy has branded his former darling and hero an " as*hole" in a move reminiscent of Jordan and Peter Andre. Needless to say during an ostentatious display of dunphyism in one of those over priced dublin kips that wouldnt let the likes of me through the door .

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    I heard that too....


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    Quote Originally Posted by N17 View Post
    I heard that too....

    this is the best post i have ever seen on this site!

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    Getting Boring now

    Just sick of it .... I hope we just let it go and dont become like the Brits and keep going on about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skeptical View Post
    Just sick of it .... I hope we just let it go and dont become like the Brits and keep going on about it.
    me too . For what its worth if france end up playing england ill be roaring france on regardless and hoping they redeem themselves .

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    if we played against bulgaria and montenegro like we played against france (away) we would not of had to worry about playing a qualifier at all, we should of beaten italy home and away aswell.

    and forcing georgia to play us in germany while they were being invaded by russia, a howler by the keepr in the georgia game and a dodgy penalty against georgia aswell, we didnt deserve to go to the world cup.

    we beat 2 teams cyprus, and georgia, and got lucky against both. nuff said

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