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Truth is a double-edged sword. For years this country believed that the Religious lived blameless lives, that nuns/brothers/priests sacrificed membership of ordinary society to care for children in “Magdalen Asylums, Industrial Schools & Reformatories”. But we know now that this belief was wrong. The Religious were well-paid for this “sacrifice”. The Religious in this country grew more powerful and influential while the task they were well paid for: The Care of You and I was forgotten about. They controlled the schools, the hospitals, the civil service, the press & media and it must be said, the minds of people through the churches and the confessional boxes. Society was stagnating under this choking hold that the Religious orders had on society, mass emigration was the order of the day. For some people in society the choices were stark:> a convent or the boat to England.
For a woman to be single AND pregnant was an unforgivable crime and the woman could end up incarcerated for life in a Magdalene Laundry and her child either sold on to America or “placed” into one of the many Child Detention Centres.
To be poor was another crime. Despite Ireland signing many documents in the United Nations, and before that the League of Nations, affirming the rights of the individual and the imprescriptible rights of the child, and despite the blood sacrifice made by the fighters at the GPO during the Easter Rising to CHERISH ALL THE CHILDREN OF THE NATION EQUALLY.
Ireland embarked on a mission after Independence to take from public view the failures of their “brave” new Catholic Ireland. Whatever changes have come in this society since Independence have not come from the goodness of the Roman Catholic church, NO, the changes, the improvements have come through the sacrifice and the suffering of ordinary people.
I watched with glee, while your kings and queens, fought for ten decades for the gods they made.
Those men are responsible for their own exploitative and abusive behaviour. You are making excuses for them. They alone are responsible for their abusive choices. All sexual violation is wrong. Whether or not you pay (to violate another person) is irrelevant.
The treatment of the women and children in Industrial Schools and Laundries is too awful for words. The mistreatment and exploitation of any vulnerable group is deplorable.
Not every social ill can, however, be blamed on the Church. There are many unfortunate features of our society that have nothing to do with Catholicism. Prostitution, for example, is about treating the human body and person as a usable and disposable commodity. The individuals who use, traffic or profit from women prostitutes make their own bad moral choices.
That is not surprising as it had happened in a particular Deaf school. Back in the Seventies/Eighties, A young deaf lad whose one of his parent died as the Christian Brothers didn't tell him that his dad or mom (Can't rem which one) died for 3 whole weeks before he found out.
Naturally he was furious and very angry with them. Also years later it was both 50-50 fault both with the Christian Brothers and his living sister. His sister should came down to him in the event of non attendance but she didn't. No wonder he was scarred for years. It was shockingly awful and heartless love.
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