Irelands Slave Women

[marmurr1916]

Where these women falsely imprisoned? If that can be proven there should be compensation for that also.

Not just compensation, justice too.

That means jail for anybody convicted of falsely imprisoning any person.

In the meantime, those who would try to turn the clock back partially to that Ireland are busy hob-nobbing with Ganlitas, Cóir in a well-cut suit.

[Captain Con O'Sullivan]

I think that is rather out of touch.

[COLOR=white]In the back of my mind I have the impression that you're a trolling gimp.[/COLOR]

In fact I know it is. I found a report last week written by a priest and covering the drop in church attendance and it includes graphs of the drop in attendance over 10 years. Falling off a cliff hardly covers it.
In the same report there is a paragraph where the point is made that there are now not enough parish priests so some parishes are either now or shortly willl be without a priest at all.

The report has all sorts of figures in it which would make a liar out of some of our church orcs on here with their wild claims of 'flocking' to mass.

I linked it as a 'favourite' but its on my work machine at the office. I'll send it on to our hopeful pal King here on Monday and will also post the link here.

Its an interesting report.

[darkhorse]

the irish flog themselves over relatively minor misdimeanours compared to what happened overseas..
but self punishment is a very much an irish catholic thing..
lets not forget what was going on in other catholic countries in those days..
franco in spain was engaged in a brutal civil war
mussolini in italy way doing likewise.
we were saints compared to the savagerly of the age..

[the king]

Oh do they? Strange that because I have a report from the Irish church which has graphs in it showing a very different story.

Hold on there now Mr King and I'll see of I can root that out for you and we'll see whether we have another professional church liar on our hands.

the Irish catholics mind has been fecked since the men in frocks psycologically invaded Ireland with the Normans, funded of course by the Vatican at that time.

[uriah]

the irish flog themselves over relatively minor misdimeanours compared to what happened overseas..
but self punishment is a very much an irish catholic thing..
lets not forget what was going on in other catholic countries in those days..
franco in spain was engaged in a brutal civil war
mussolini in italy way doing likewise.
we were saints compared to the savagerly of the age..

Tht's alright so. We can all sleep easy in our beds. What we did was not so bad and others did much worse.

Di you not read the OP?

[Andrew49]

Each time you peel away a layer from Ireland's Architecture of Containment (a phrase coined by James M. Smith <--LINK) another horror reveals itself.

By the time the government takes action on these home-produced and home-nourished human rights abuses all the victims/survivors will be dead. The campaign for justice for the Magdalen Women is over a decade old.

[MontgomeryClift]

Ah, yes it's all the nun's fault. These women's families didn't even know they were in laundries, of course, and weren't a bit happy to have them locked up and out of the way. The government didn't know either, I'm sure. The nuns just kidnapped pregnant women and nobody knew. Yes, let's decide that that's what happened.

[Aindriu]

Criticism of the religious orders has to be matched by criticism of the governments of the day, they could have intervened and put a stop to this if they had wanted to.

I completely agree! The KNEW what was going on and did nothing because it suited them to. May all those who were complicit in these abuses rot in hell!

[imokyrok]

the irish flog themselves over relatively minor misdimeanours compared to what happened overseas..
but self punishment is a very much an irish catholic thing..
lets not forget what was going on in other catholic countries in those days..
franco in spain was engaged in a brutal civil war
mussolini in italy way doing likewise.
we were saints compared to the savagerly of the age..

Sadly this is not so long ago. Were you listening to the women on Joe Duffy today? Women who escaped from these institutions were hunted down as if they were criminals by the gardaí and returned to their prison convents. Women were threatened with exposure in newspapers if they did not give up their child. I listened to a catholic priest condemning such women by name from the altar myself and I'm only in my early forties. Did you note from my OP that in the 1990's the so called Christians still refused to put a dying man in touch with his mother? The cruelty of these nuns is not something that existed only far into the distant past. The misdeeds of these people lives on in lives blighted by sorrow.

[Mar Tweedy]

the irish flog themselves over relatively minor misdimeanours compared to what happened overseas..
but self punishment is a very much an irish catholic thing..
lets not forget what was going on in other catholic countries in those days..
franco in spain was engaged in a brutal civil war
mussolini in italy way doing likewise.
we were saints compared to the savagerly of the age..

Have you read the Ryan Report.

To call the behaviour of the religious "savagery" is an insult to savages.

I can't begin to understand how you can call such disgusting treatment of other human beings as minor misdemeanours.