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    Council moves to defuse Lissadell row

    Lissadell scandal continues

    The scandal whereby the Government/local council allowed this historic stately home fall into the hands of private owners is now about to bite them in the backside.
    Sounds like Ladylike Cassidy and Lordy Walsh want the Government to make them an offer they can't refuse and buy it the way they should have done when they had the chance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RetiredProvo View Post
    Sounds like Ladylike Cassidy and Lordy Walsh want the Government to make them an offer they can't refuse and buy it the way they should have done when they had the chance.
    There is nothing in that article about the current owners looking to sell the house.

    The articles deals with the attempts of County Councillors to dig themselves out of hole of their own making (ie passing a resolution to insert a contentious right of way into their Development Plan).

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    It sounds like it will eventually wind up with the Courts deciding as to whether a right of way exists or not.

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    Just going on press reports

    1. Owners say they were assured - presumably by statutory declaration - that there were no rights of way through the property.

    2. Present owners buy the property and spend a lot of money doing it up, actually living in it, and opening to public access.

    3. If the county council thought there was a right of way such a claim would require some investigation by e.g. local historians, solicitor, etc. That would normally be done or supervised by a council official.

    4. Councillors propose a resolution at a meeting - no indication of investigations etc beforehand - I think as part of the COunty Development Plan.

    I believe some councillors were looking for some publicity rather than encouraging the ongoing development of an estate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ergo2 View Post
    Just going on press reports

    1. Owners say they were assured - presumably by statutory declaration - that there were no rights of way through the property.

    2. Present owners buy the property and spend a lot of money doing it up, actually living in it, and opening to public access.

    3. If the county council thought there was a right of way such a claim would require some investigation by e.g. local historians, solicitor, etc. That would normally be done or supervised by a council official.

    4. Councillors propose a resolution at a meeting - no indication of investigations etc beforehand - I think as part of the COunty Development Plan.

    I believe some councillors were looking for some publicity rather than encouraging the ongoing development of an estate.
    The process set in train by the county council is only to determine whether or not rights of way exist: if either party is unhappy with the decision they can appeal to the Circuit Court.
    The Director of Services who presumably has no axe to grind "said that the officials would welcome a meeting with the owners and had previously requested such a meeting." This contradicts what the Cassidy-Walshs have claimed.
    Owners say they were assured - presumably by statutory declaration - that there were no rights of way through the property As someone who bought a site in North Sligo, I can say, from experience, do not believe anything you are told by a local landowner or local professional.

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    Never mind essex at least you are in Sligo where rights of way are often denied ,illegally blocked and then said to have 'lapsed' or 'fallen into disuse'.

    As for Lissadell,it was a historic site for its connections with Con Markievicz and W.B.Yeats.But I believe all the valuable contents were sold off by the Gore-Booth family ages ago leaving the place an empty shell in need of repair.
    'With the obvious exception of Constance, the Gore-Booth's have never considered themselves Irish..' said one of their number not long ago.Yet,according to the Oxford Companion to Irish History, they have lived in Ireland for about 400 years.

    Remember Lord Tebbit's 'Cricket Test'? Indians and Pakistanis who want to be accepted in the UK should support England at cricket,he thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ergo2 View Post
    Just going on press reports

    1. Owners say they were assured - presumably by statutory declaration - that there were no rights of way through the property.

    2. Present owners buy the property and spend a lot of money doing it up, actually living in it, and opening to public access.

    3. If the county council thought there was a right of way such a claim would require some investigation by e.g. local historians, solicitor, etc. That would normally be done or supervised by a council official.

    4. Councillors propose a resolution at a meeting - no indication of investigations etc beforehand - I think as part of the COunty Development Plan.

    I believe some councillors were looking for some publicity rather than encouraging the ongoing development of an estate.
    Yep, and if they did indeed receive such a declaration then they have recourse against the original sellers if a right of way exists.

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    Nice gardens, interesting house, but the 'romance' surrounding it is pure sloblocks. It was a seat of the Anglo Ascendancy, populated by Unionists. Never understood this craven attitude around it. When my dad was growing up in the area the denizens of Lissadell were still referred to as 'Sir' this and 'Miss' that, even the kids. CPO it and turn it into a mosque, that's what I say...

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    ffs- you obviously have read neither Ted Hughes, Sylvia Plath nor Richard Murphy.
    Do you know about the Poet's Tree- of course this is all part of the psyche:
    deny history, deny the importance of art, tarmac Tara and allow nobs to
    populate public access areas with no responsibility to the traditions.

    I totally blame the little perverse imp that calls itself Martin Cullen for beginning
    the process of decline in cultural traditions in this country.
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