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    Travellers and Brexit

    This report is written in a rather breathless tone, as if the post-Brexit obvious hadn't previously crossed the minds of the group involved - the "Traveller Movement".

    These folks seem to think that after Brexit the Irish should have rights within the UK that others wouldn't have.

    Is this complaining driven by the sense of entitlement that is held by some Irish people, or by the sense of entitlement that is held by traveller people?

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/poli...port-1.3314983

    "Irish citizens living in Britain could be at risk of losing their right to live, work, rent private accommodation and avail of healthcare services in a post-Brexit UK, a new report into citizens’ rights has warned.

    Irish citizens in the UK could also lose the right to exemptions from deportation and prohibitions on employment of foreigners once the UK has formally left the European Union in 2019, the report says.

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    “Throughout history, the Irish community have been a fundamental part of British society and continue to shape Britain for the better,” wrote Lord Alton."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimples 77 View Post
    This report is written in a rather breathless tone, as if the post-Brexit obvious hadn't previously crossed the minds of the group involved - the "Traveller Movement".

    These folks seem to think that after Brexit the Irish should have rights within the UK that others wouldn't have.

    Is this complaining driven by the sense of entitlement that is held by some Irish people, or by the sense of entitlement that is held by traveller people?

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/poli...port-1.3314983

    "Irish citizens living in Britain could be at risk of losing their right to live, work, rent private accommodation and avail of healthcare services in a post-Brexit UK, a new report into citizens’ rights has warned.

    Irish citizens in the UK could also lose the right to exemptions from deportation and prohibitions on employment of foreigners once the UK has formally left the European Union in 2019, the report says.

    ...

    “Throughout history, the Irish community have been a fundamental part of British society and continue to shape Britain for the better,” wrote Lord Alton."
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    the rights of the estimated 100,000 Irish Travellers living in the UK once the UK leaves the European Union.
    100,000 Travellers returning to Ireland. Some would see that as an appalling vista.

    We have a national interest in ensuring folk living in the UK can stay there.

    And, I guess, seeing as how we were all in the one State once, there probably is some basis for seeking a special status.
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    We better support this . We don't want a hundred thousand of them being deported back here
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    Quote Originally Posted by Schuhart View Post
    100,000 Travellers returning to Ireland. Some would see that as an appalling vista.

    We have a national interest in ensuring folk living in the UK can stay there.

    And, I guess, seeing as how we were all in the one State once, there probably is some basis for seeking a special status.

    So much for independence then.

    Numerous Irish folks have an attitude of dependence on the UK.
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    The UK has a large indiginous ethnic minority in Northern Ireland who identify themselves as either solely Irish or Irish/other identities. If Irish citizens are not given the same rights as British citizens then they will disenfranchised in their own homeland, but sure let's let a serious crisis in Anglo-Irish relations be used to have a go at Travellers. . .
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    On the plus side, if they do come home , there should never be a pothole in the country again
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    Quote Originally Posted by Windowshopper View Post
    The UK has a large indiginous ethnic minority in the Northern Ireland who identify themselves as either solely Irish or Irish/other identities. If Irish citizens are not given the same rights as British citizens then they will disenfranchised in their own homeland, but sure let's let a serious crisis in Anglo-Irish relations be used to have a go at Travellers. . .
    Which part of "Irish citizens in the UK" are you not grasping?
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    The report is flawed. It assumes Irish people living in the UK do so under the same rights and agreements as other EU citizens. That is incorrect. Irish people have a settled status immediately when moving to the UK which is above and beyond indefinite leave to remain or freedom of movement under the EU. I think this was all laid out under the Ireland Act 1948.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimples 77 View Post
    Numerous Irish folks have an attitude of dependence on the UK.
    True.

    Usually, those with a grip on reality.
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