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    Civic_critic2 Civic_critic2 is offline

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    Like I say, they simply can't deal with it.

    The problem with relying on the kindness of strangers is that eventually they have a change of agenda and then you're lunch. Because you didn't attend to your security in the good times you are going to get eaten, one day. And most especially so if you lie in a strategically important area and especially, on the basis of our history, if you're Ireland.

    That's apart from all the other effects of remaining a quiescent client state such as non industrial development, mass emigration and all the rest of it. You'll pay for your quiet life eventually.
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    The point of talking about the geostrategic aspects is not that trade is not important, obviously it is and the time spent on it and the volume of text produced will likely be greater than anything produced about geostrategy. The point is that the geostrategic is equal to all considerations in importance and prior to most, meaning it is the ground upon which the others can proceed.

    But most of all the point is that the Irish media and political class are woefully manipulative in not informing their people of these realities and thinking that the upper middle class of this country and certain members of the civil service have the right to decide upon them without the input or even knowledge of the people.
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    In fact when you have seen a single article or programme in the media on Ireland's geostrategic position and importance? Never, it doesn't exist, even though geostrategic issues are the primary issues that have driven our political situation for centuries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Civic_critic2 View Post
    In fact when you have seen a single article or programme in the media on Ireland's geostrategic position and importance? Never, it doesn't exist, even though geostrategic issues are the primary issues that have driven our political situation for centuries.
    Well it's not like we rely on militaristic alliances which involve geopolitical positioning.

    When Britain ruled the waves we were cut off from the world and left to starve in our millions. Britain can't do that to us again without attacking the EU.

    The Brits are writing arrogance checks they can't cash.

    They've got their royal wedding now, watch the UK public lose rapid interest in Brexit and May sign the government up to a customs deal that allows Waynetta her few weeks in her Brit ghetto in Benidorm.
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    Relying on this outsider or that outsider is just a continuation of the position of supplicant that has been forced on us, it has no advantage for us economically or politically or psychologically in the medium to long run. It we can't get our sh1t together ourselves, or are disallowed from doing so because others find it threatening, that tells you a lot about the posture being forced upon the country even into the 21st century.

    It was interesting that the whole 'decommissioning' issue was made much of. While it was presented in the news and to the people of the south as a law and order and democracy issue, historically and geostrategically it was the reoccurrence of a strategy that we have been subject to for centuries; to wit, that the one thing that can not be tolerated in Ireland is the Irish being armed, even while the British remain armed and the unonists retain 200,000 guns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ireniall View Post
    Real life is not about conflict. Conflict makes us smaller and meaner and erodes our natural empathy.
    This sniffy, finger-wagging piece of attempted moral superiority is actually funny. In the absence of useful insights it's a case of 'let's wag our fingers at the irrational, violent northerners'.
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    It's an emotive topic. We should do what's best for ourselves in the long-term.
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