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    Quote Originally Posted by Hillmanhunter1 View Post
    re Anglo-Irish trade - look at the statistics in my signature. EU-Irish trade is far more important.
    Those statistics are silly, the EU is far bigger than the UK. To try to compare them is nonsense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catalpast View Post
    For home grown domestic companies Trade with Britain is still hugely important

    We are caught between the Devil and the Deep Blue Sea on this one....
    Gotta disagree. Its a no brainer - there will be losers in Ireland of course, but the numbers speak for themselves.

    Also, while it is true that domestic companies account for a large part of the trade with the UK, too much of that is low added value foodstuffs. Cheap food for the masses has always been a key policy plank in the UK, and in a post Brexit world our farmers will be competing with Argentina and New Zealand where farming is done on an entirely different economic basis.

    Better by far to produce (possibly less) high value foodstuffs for the continental market - take advantage of the Green Ireland/L'Irlande Sauvage perception. It may of course mean that some of our lazier exporters might need to learn a European language.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NYCKY View Post
    Those statistics are silly, the EU is far bigger than the UK. To try to compare them is nonsense.
    Perhaps you have "alternative facts'?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sync View Post
    I heard that if 25 of us change our logos, the UK will give in, but every time someone changes it BACK a fairy dies.
    Leave Leo out of this!
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    Quote Originally Posted by NYCKY View Post
    Those statistics are silly, the EU is far bigger than the UK. To try to compare them is nonsense.
    A comparison between them isn't really the point. EU-Irish trade being far more important to our economy is the point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hillmanhunter1 View Post
    Gotta disagree. Its a no brainer - there will be losers in Ireland of course, but the numbers speak for themselves.

    Also, while it is true that domestic companies account for a large part of the trade with the UK, too much of that is low added value foodstuffs. Cheap food for the masses has always been a key policy plank in the UK, and in a post Brexit world our farmers will be competing with Argentina and New Zealand where farming is done on an entirely different economic basis.

    Better by far to produce (possibly less) high value foodstuffs for the continental market - take advantage of the Green Ireland/L'Irlande Sauvage perception. It may of course mean that some of our lazier exporters might need to learn a European language.
    It's mad how many p.ie posters are firmly stuck in the 1970s and refuse to engage with reality. Dozens of posters now have informed Cattlepest of the reality that trade with the UK isn't very much of the total and most of it is agriculture, but he refuses to listen and warbles away stuck in his 1970s fantasy that UK trade is 90% of the total, or something.

    Britain can't feed itself so the low-value-add agri exports won't be badly affected. And as you say Ireland would be better off positioning itself for the high-end, clean green image, high-value foodstuffs anyway. There'll always be orders of magnitude more wealthy high-end punters with discerning palates and fat wallets in the EU than in Britain, especially post-Brexit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hillmanhunter1 View Post
    Perhaps you have "alternative facts'?

    Nah, I just don't cherry pick selective statistics.

    The UK comprises roughly one sixth to one seventh of the EU GDP depending on what report you read. Assuming that figure of 8% if EU exports to the UK is correct, it's 8% of a much much bigger pound/euro figure than the 48% of of UK exports to the EU.

    Simply put, you're not comparing apples to apples.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NYCKY View Post
    Nah, I just don't cherry pick selective statistics.

    The UK comprises roughly one sixth to one seventh of the EU GDP depending on what report you read. Assuming that figure of 8% if EU exports to the UK is correct, it's 8% of a much much bigger pound/euro figure than the 48% of of UK exports to the EU.

    Simply put, you're not comparing apples to apples.
    Are you new to numbers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NYCKY View Post
    Nah, I just don't cherry pick selective statistics.

    The UK comprises roughly one sixth to one seventh of the EU GDP depending on what report you read. Assuming that figure of 8% if EU exports to the UK is correct, it's 8% of a much much bigger pound/euro figure than the 48% of of UK exports to the EU.

    Simply put, you're not comparing apples to apples.
    He's not trying to compare apples to apples. He's explicitly pointing out that the comparison between the UK and the EU is of that between and apple and a blue whale.
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    Can you confirm your campaign will be diverse and all inclusive?
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