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    Guy Verhofstadt: RoI/NI border is "illogical" and "not natural".

    Guy Verhofstadt, the European Parliament's main Brexit negotiator went quite far in his comments to the Dáil today with regard to the effects of Brexit on this island. Yesterday, he floated the possibility that Northern Ireland could remain in the single market or the customs union post-Brexit, much to the fury of unionists.

    Today, his comments were even more pointed, referring to the border as "illogical" and "not natural", joking that not even the cows know where it is. Such comments go well beyond the context of the Brexit issue.

    There has been comment recently that British Brexiteers see the NI/RoI border as a lever to procure concessions in other areas in their negotiations with the EU. Well, levers work both ways and the EU - with an economy that's some 7-8 times the size of that of the UK - will be able to do a lot more pushing.
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    The thing is the unionists don't like being used as a bargaining chip either. They're at best a cargo culture to a Britain that's devolving and will probably finally disintegrate under Brexit pressures.
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    Verhofstadt does not respect a democratic vote. No wonder he does not respect borders either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
    Verhofstadt does not respect a democratic vote. No wonder he does not respect borders either.
    What democratic vote is he disrespecting?
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    If I was good at IT, I'd have a gif of Paisley eating popcorn right about now.
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    The best of a bad bunch of options seems to be a hard border in the sea. The UK may already be resigned to that, but need to be seen to put up a fight over it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_anderson View Post
    If I was good at IT, I'd have a gif of Paisley eating popcorn right about now.
    An baile nó an béal?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercurial View Post
    The best of a bad bunch of options seems to be a hard border in the sea. The UK may already be resigned to that, but need to be seen to put up a fight over it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercurial View Post
    The best of a bad bunch of options seems to be a hard border in the sea. The UK may already be resigned to that, but need to be seen to put up a fight over it.
    You're talking about a hard border down the middle of a sovereign state, and if this is all the EU have to offer they should have said so at the outset instead of pretending that some magical solution was readily available.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercurial View Post
    The best of a bad bunch of options seems to be a hard border in the sea. The UK may already be resigned to that, but need to be seen to put up a fight over it.
    It is the most logical one and goes some way towards recognizing the democratic legitimacy of NI's vote against Brexit.

    Be that as it may, the tone of Verhofstadt's comments are - to me - eyebrow-raising.

    He seems to be leaning towards questioning the very validity of the NI/RoI border.
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