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    Quote Originally Posted by petaljam View Post
    That's certainly the logic of the Le Touquet treaty which led to the Calais "Jungle" and similar : Britain as an island, without a land border with Europe at all.

    Much as I oppose Brexit, I do find the irony of the ROI - which basically had to join the EEC simply because Britain did - now being the cause of Britain effectively having to cede territory, and NI at that, with added Unionist discomfiture, to be slightly delicious all the same.
    This is all Dave's fault.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
    Verhofstadt does not believe in borders. It is all one EU super state to him
    It is, and he is one of the inner circle of those driving greater integration. And he has just given us a taste of how they view national sovereignty and democracy - minor inconveniences to be circumvented.
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    With allies like Guy!

    Scary.

    I saw an article about warning racist border around Ireland. The usual fare but you'll not be surprised to learn that the idea of a United Ireland is of course being thrown under the bus in the latest round of outrage by the permanently offended.

    What have I got ireland? Unity. Will anyone be happy or will they call me a racist quote from Guy Verhofstadt with apologies to the big fella
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor View Post
    They only adopted that stance a few weeks ago. Up until then both the EU and the UK pretended there were other options. But there are none, I've said so from Day 1 and I don't think I'm going to be proved wrong.
    No, the UK said there were, and the EU agreed to consider any proposals the UK made.

    We all know there were none. A blind man can see that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by between the bridges View Post
    'Main negotiator'? Has anywan told Michel Barnier...
    FYI

    Guy Verhofstadt, the European Parliament's main Brexit negotiator................
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    Quote Originally Posted by between the bridges View Post
    'Main negotiator'? Has anywan told Michel Barnier...
    The EP and the EC are different animals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercurial View Post
    This is all Dave's fault.
    It is.

    Though I gather he had help. Boris for one. Political allies, eh?
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    No wonder Verhofstadt can't see a border. According to his own Twitter he thinks this guy is the Taoiseach.

    https://twitter.com/leovaradker

    Should have gone to Specsavers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor View Post
    They only adopted that stance a few weeks ago.
    It was explicitly stated in the Irish Government's position paper on Brexit published in May:

    "Brexit is a British policy, not an EU policy or an Irish policy."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick Mac View Post
    With allies like Guy!

    Scary.

    I saw an article about warning racist border around Ireland. The usual fare but you'll not be surprised to learn that the idea of a United Ireland is of course being thrown under the bus in the latest round of outrage by the permanently offended.

    What have I got ireland? Unity. Will anyone be happy or will they call me a racist quote from Guy Verhofstadt with apologies to the big fella
    What?
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