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    Quote Originally Posted by robut View Post
    Nigel Farage Bombarded With Shouts For Jacob Rees-Mogg To Be Next PM - LBC



    So what do ye think of THE MOGGSTER being the next UK PM? .. Oh Joy, TBH my own personal opinion, he is a pompous a*s & him as PM would spell even further brexit disastor via unbridled arrogance ..

    Hmmmm...

    He'd be popular among middle England drips and the 'establishment' for a while... but I doubt he'd have much appeal beyond that or that any appeal he might have in middle England would last very long if things continue to be a bit miserable...

    Banging on about having nannies to look after his newborn ain't exactly being 'one of the people'... and it's the people who are increasingly p!ssed off and who will be looking for new targets to blame once the UK is out of the EU... assuming they quit their addiction to blaming Europe for everything after they're gone that is...
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    Quote Originally Posted by robut View Post
    Nigel Farage Bombarded With Shouts For Jacob Rees-Mogg To Be Next PM - LBC



    So what do ye think of THE MOGGSTER being the next UK PM? .. Oh Joy, TBH my own personal opinion, he is a pompous a*s & him as PM would spell even further brexit disastor via unbridled arrogance ..

    Hasn't Rees-Mogg said recently he's not interested in High Office? There are also certain ecclesiastical CoE roles the PM discharges with the Monarch. As a Roman-Catholic might Rees-Mogg thus be ineligible? Genuine question.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Rees-Mogg
    https://www.publications.parliament....tev/842/m2.htm
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    Quote Originally Posted by robut View Post
    Nigel Farage Bombarded With Shouts For Jacob Rees-Mogg To Be Next PM - LBC



    So what do ye think of THE MOGGSTER being the next UK PM? .. Oh Joy, TBH my own personal opinion, he is a pompous a*s & him as PM would spell even further brexit disastor via unbridled arrogance ..

    As one who wishes the Tories nothing but ill, I'd love to see it happen.
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    Looks like SS Brexit is ploughing full steam ahead up Sht Creek.
    Brexit: EU negotiator Barnier firm on citizens' rights - BBC News
    Barnier's statement today rubbishes May's position on EU citizens' rights and slaps down Bojo's claptrap about leaving the EU whistle for its divorce payments. Last week, he said the Brits were talking through their holes about "frictionless borders".

    Frustration with British negotiating incompetence isn't confined to Barnier. Verhofstadt expressed similar sentiments on Monday and comments continue to leak from Berlin and Paris almost pleading with the Brits to come up with some position so that substantive discussions on the three pre-conditions can start.

    Unfortunately, it looks like they'll be disappointed. British internal opinion is currently split down the middle between those (City, Hammond, Tory and Labour Remainers, LibDems, BBC, Guardian and other wets) attempting to preserve the status quo through either ignoring the referendum result, running another referendum or remaining in the Single Market in a Norway-type deal and those (May, most Tories, Corbyn and other Labour Brexiteers, the Tory press, UKIP and Winston and Doris Blimp) obsessed with immigration and the ECJ and quite prepared not only for a hard Brexit but also walking away from the EU without any deal. The lines are now so deeply drawn between the sides that the only possibilities look like either continuing to deny reality or total paralysis of the decision-making process.

    Thirteen months have passed since the Brexit vote and the Brits are still incapable of articulating what the fck they want. Meanwhile, the clock is continuing to tick down, the summer siesta is about to begin and the German federal elections follow when everybody re-assembles in September. Unless Europe hears something more mature from Westminster than the never-ending infantile whinging about Johnny Foreigner, it's likely to throw its hands in the air, move on to deal with other pressing matters facing the Union and leave May, Johnson, Davis, Corbyn, Snarlene, the Daily Mail and Winston and Doris Blimp to drown in their Little Englander sht.

    The Brits have just twelve working days to come up with a realistic starting position for getting the Article 50 discussions moving before officialdom closes down for the summer. If they don't, there won't be any movement on even the pre-conditions before October at the earliest, leaving just months to sort everything out before 28 national governments begin the process of ratification. Is there any hope of the urgency of the situation finally dawning on the lunatics who've taken over the Westminster Asylum?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deadlock View Post
    Hasn't Rees-Mogg said recently he's not interested in High Office? There are also certain ecclesiastical CoE roles the PM discharges with the Monarch. As a Roman-Catholic might Rees-Mogg thus be ineligible? Genuine question.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Rees-Mogg
    https://www.publications.parliament....tev/842/m2.htm
    It would be constitutionally almost impossible, as the PM is required to advise the Queen in making ecclesiastical appointments while RCs and Jews are barred from so doing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prof Honeydew View Post
    Looks like SS Brexit is ploughing full steam ahead up Sht Creek.
    Brexit: EU negotiator Barnier firm on citizens' rights - BBC News
    Barnier's statement today rubbishes May's position on EU citizens' rights and slaps down Bojo's claptrap about leaving the EU whistle for its divorce payments. Last wekk, he said the Brits were talking through their holes about "frictionless borders".

    Frustration with British negotiating incompetence isn't confined to Barnier. Verhofstadt expressed similar sentiments on Monday and comments continue to leak from Berlin and Paris almost pleading with the Brits to come up with some position so that substantive discussions on the three pre-conditions can start.

    Unfortunately, it looks like they'll be disappointed. British internal opinion is currently split down the middle between those (City, Hammond, Tory and Labour Remainers, LibDems, BBC, Guardian and other wets) attempting to preserve the status quo through either ignoring the referendum result, running another referendum or remaining in the Single Market in a Norway-type deal and those (May, most Tories, Corbyn and other Labour Brexiteers, the Tory press, UKIP and Winston and Doris Blimp) obsessed with immigration and the ECJ and quite prepared not only for a hard Brexit but also walking away from the EU without any deal. The lines are now so deeply drawn between the sides that the only possibilities look like either continuing to deny reality or total paralysis of the decision-making process.

    Thirteen months have passed since the Brexit vote and the Brits are still incapable of articulating what the fck they want. Meanwhile, the clock is continuing to tick down,the summer siesta is about to begin and the German federal elections follow when everybody re-assembles in September. Unless Europe hears something more mature from Westminster than the never-ending infantile whinging about Johnny Foreigner, it's likely to throw its hands in the air, move on to deal with other pressing matters facing the Union and leave May, Johnson, Davis, Corbyn, Snarlene, the Daily Mail and Winston and Doris Blimp to drown in their Little Englander sht.

    The Brits have just twelve working days to come up with a realistic starting position for getting the Article 50 discussions moving before officialdom closes down for the summer. Is there any hope of the urgency of the situation finally dawning on the lunatics who've taken over the Westminster Asylum?
    Not much hope of that, I fear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by owedtojoy View Post
    Johnson is a walking spoofer, his appointment as Foreign Secretary tells all you need to know about May's "political skills".

    He is widely seen is EU circles as a liar and fake news purveyor, from the days when he wrote a Torygraph column in Brussels, compounded by his lies in the referendum campaign - the fact that May let him near the Brexit negotiations at all was taken as a sign that she has not got a clue.

    Successful negotiations need trust - Johnson will never be trusted by any of his counterparts. If he became Prime Minister, it would only get worse.
    I think May appointed Boris as Foreign Minister to keep him under control. If he'd been a backbencher he'd be plotting for her political demise from the first day of her leadership. And the position of FM is flattering enough to keep Boris happy for the time being. It's bad for Britain that he is FM but the Tories have never considered that as more than side piffle as Boris would have said.

    As for Brexit, sure a slight majority was in favour, and May decided to follow that. Why don't leaders lead, instead of follow? She could have persuaded them otherwise much earlier than now when everyone else who isn't in favour of Brexit is shouting that Brexit is a mistake (and more).
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    Quote Originally Posted by statsman View Post
    It would be constitutionally almost impossible, as the PM is required to advise the Queen in making ecclesiastical appointments while RCs and Jews are barred from so doing.
    I thought as much at least in relation to Roman Catholics - but wasn't Disraeli Jewish?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deadlock View Post
    I thought as much at least in relation to Roman Catholics - but wasn't Disraeli Jewish?
    Born Jewish, but baptised Anglican as a child.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prof Honeydew View Post
    Looks like SS Brexit is ploughing full steam ahead up Sht Creek.
    Brexit: EU negotiator Barnier firm on citizens' rights - BBC News
    Barnier's statement today rubbishes May's position on EU citizens' rights and slaps down Bojo's claptrap about leaving the EU whistle for its divorce payments. Last week, he said the Brits were talking through their holes about "frictionless borders".

    Frustration with British negotiating incompetence isn't confined to Barnier. Verhofstadt expressed similar sentiments on Monday and comments continue to leak from Berlin and Paris almost pleading with the Brits to come up with some position so that substantive discussions on the three pre-conditions can start.

    Unfortunately, it looks like they'll be disappointed. British internal opinion is currently split down the middle between those (City, Hammond, Tory and Labour Remainers, LibDems, BBC, Guardian and other wets) attempting to preserve the status quo through either ignoring the referendum result, running another referendum or remaining in the Single Market in a Norway-type deal and those (May, most Tories, Corbyn and other Labour Brexiteers, the Tory press, UKIP and Winston and Doris Blimp) obsessed with immigration and the ECJ and quite prepared not only for a hard Brexit but also walking away from the EU without any deal. The lines are now so deeply drawn between the sides that the only possibilities look like either continuing to deny reality or total paralysis of the decision-making process.

    Thirteen months have passed since the Brexit vote and the Brits are still incapable of articulating what the fck they want. Meanwhile, the clock is continuing to tick down, the summer siesta is about to begin and the German federal elections follow when everybody re-assembles in September. Unless Europe hears something more mature from Westminster than the never-ending infantile whinging about Johnny Foreigner, it's likely to throw its hands in the air, move on to deal with other pressing matters facing the Union and leave May, Johnson, Davis, Corbyn, Snarlene, the Daily Mail and Winston and Doris Blimp to drown in their Little Englander sht.

    The Brits have just twelve working days to come up with a realistic starting position for getting the Article 50 discussions moving before officialdom closes down for the summer. If they don't, there won't be any movement on even the pre-conditions before October at the earliest, leaving just months to sort everything out before 28 national governments begin the process of ratification. Is there any hope of the urgency of the situation finally dawning on the lunatics who've taken over the Westminster Asylum?

    This FUBAR is simply not sustainable.
    Something has to snap in Britain - either the Tory party or Britain itself.
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