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IDF kill Palestinians for their organs: Sweden's Aftonbladet

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With the influx of "1/4 Jews" into Israel in an attempt to keep up the demographic, I wouldn't be suprised at anything any more! The former Sovirt Union is hardly a template for ethical behaviour. See link:-

Israelis blame Russians for anti-Semitism swastika is daubed on the walls of a synagogue - Israel Insider
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This sounds to me horribly redolent of the antisemitic "blood libel" .

Having said that, the IDF regularly kill Palestinian children: organ theft, provided they left you with a kidney, would be better.
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Why would the size of a media outlet determine how credible it is?

Fox News in the US isnt known for honest reportage yet its enormous - Rupert Murdoch is doing his level best to destroy the last remaining shread of credibility that traditional journalists have.

I'd love to pour scorn on this report, sometimes I feel that some publications do actually have an anti-semitic agenda, but there is a huge difference between anti-Israeli and and anti-Jewish (lets not get into idiot semantics about the word 'semite').

I know plenty of anti-Israeli state, I no absolutely no-one who is anti-Jewish.
I admit the story seems somewhat wild and hard to believe, but its certainly not impossible nor even implausible. If the IDF have no problem with shooting at civilians, stealing their organs is hardly going to be an issue.

As is, I am going to take this report with a pinch of salt, simply because there isnt any hard evidence, not for any perceived bias towards one or the other side in this dispute.

I don't beleive that for a moment. They may conceal it from you but I can guarantee you that a significant number of leftist 'anti Zionists' are anti Semitic. At the end of the day it is an irrational thing anyway so you don't really get anyone outside of neantherdal skinheads willing to sit you down and say: "You know, I really don't like Jews."

However as the cartoons last year in Socialist Worker showed it is not only prevalent but even unthinking among many leftists. As a matter of interest Jim Larkin's newspaper used to publish anti semitic stuff as well.
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With the influx of "1/4 Jews" into Israel in an attempt to keep up the demographic, I wouldn't be suprised at anything any more! The former Sovirt Union is hardly a template for ethical behaviour. See link:-

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There are thugs and criminals in all societies... But don't do down an entire race and propagate the myth.. Some, not most, Jews aspire to emigrate to Israel, not to "keep up the demographic" but for deeper reasons. Most visit and become part of a kibbutz.. A bit like visiting the Vatican with attitude.. But what must be said about the development of Israel is that they create more than any of the surrounding neighbours.. If a few of these neighbours picked up a spade or a plough I would have more respect for them. But until then my credence is stretched.. Shalom
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Except people who visit the Vatican don't subsequently move to Rome, steal the land from Italians, shoot their kids and conduct genocide upon them, generally.
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There are thugs and criminals in all societies... But don't do down an entire race and propagate the myth.. Some, not most, Jews aspire to emigrate to Israel, not to "keep up the demographic" but for deeper reasons. Most visit and become part of a kibbutz.. A bit like visiting the Vatican with attitude.. But what must be said about the development of Israel is that they create more than any of the surrounding neighbours.. If a few of these neighbours picked up a spade or a plough I would have more respect for them. But until then my credence is stretched.. Shalom
Sorry, I implied that the influx of people from the far east of Europe was leading to a dilution of the original ethos of Israel, and given the speeches of the new foreign minister I don't think I'm far off the mark. And it was another Russian , Menachem Begin who as leader of Likud did his utmost to destroy or marginalise the kibbutz movement. So, not much change then?
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Except people who visit the Vatican don't subsequently move to Rome, steal the land from Italians, shoot their kids and conduct genocide upon them, generally.
Learn your history before you rant.. Rome or Israel is not a good example for this allegorical nonsense.
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Learn your history before you rant.. Rome or Israel is not a good example for this allegorical nonsense.
I'm not speaking about any allegories.
Catholic pilgrims to Rome can in no way whatsoever be compared to the Jews, both fake and real, who migrate to 'Israel' under the racist Aliyah provision in order to occupy settlements in Palestinian land and join the IDF in their genocidal policy against the indigenous people of Palestine.
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Catholic pilgrims to Rome can in no way whatsoever be compared to the Jews, both fake and real, who migrate to 'Israel' under the racist Aliyah provision in order to occupy settlements in Palestinian land and join the IDF in their genocidal policy against the indigenous people of Palestine.
I think you purposefully missed the point to suit you soapbox....Look at the builders, the manufacturers. Those who do.. not those who cast blame and don't do a damn thing to save themselves. But it's worth quoting you just to post the ridiculous rantings of deep seated bigotry; Because that's what it is. You said the truth can't be hidden.. Nonsense.. Are you so completely naive that you haven't been shaped by the millennia of propaganda of family tradition and a misguided youth? The truth is two faced.. I will debate the past with you but like NI the past needs to be left behind to move on.. There is no ribbon wrapped answer to the middle east. It is a savage territorial, political and religious dispute that has raged for over 3,000 years. But an image I have of this type of debater is one of a PLO scarf billowing lightly in the wind making use of a recycled Brits Out banner.. Industry, self appreciation and the respect of neighbours are the building blocks here. Not the retro leftist anti Jewish agenda..... Now that's a rant..
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More straw men than a field of scarecrows.
When you can debate the substantive point that Catholic pilgrims to Rome do not, have not and are highly unlikely ever to migrate to Italy, steal the land from Italians, shoot their kids and conduct genocide upon them, then let me know.
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