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Do you think he won't cactus? Richard Nixon is the only US President ever to resign in office and only 8 out of the 44 Presidents have died whilst in office, 4 of which died from natural causes.

Unless you are suggesting death as an option it would be virtually unheard of that he would not complete his term. You'll have the CIA on this thread next.
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Do you think he won't cactus? Richard Nixon is the only US President ever to resign in office and only 8 out of the 44 Presidents have died whilst in office, 4 of which died from natural causes.

Unless you are suggesting death as an option it would be virtually unheard of that he would not complete his term. You'll have the CIA on this thread next.
Nixon is a good precedent.
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Nixon is a good precedent.
Not really
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What a load of nonsense - Nixon resigned following the discover of his gross abuse of the office of President. There have been plenty of allegations of improprietary against Presidents, both whilst in office and about their lives prior to coming to office - none of these have ever resulted in a resignation other than in the case of Nixon. It should also be noted that Nixon was in his second term so there has never in history been an American President resign during their first 4 years of office.

Would you like to outline the scandal that you think is going to cause Obama to resign during the next 42 months or is it just a feeling in your gut?
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Nixon is a good precedent.
Yeah, I agree. Whatever.

Jesus these conspiratorial threads are boring and repetitive. The coming American totalitarian superstate. Did the CIA murder Nena? Are US dollar bills made out of the corpses of tiny people? Obama's lies: Volume IV - He's secretly the Imperial Grand Wizard of the Klu Klux Klan.
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Yeah, I agree. Whatever.

Jesus these conspiratorial threads are boring and repetitive. The coming American totalitarian superstate. Did the CIA murder Nena? Are US dollar bills made out of the corpses of tiny people? Obama's lies: Volume IV - He's secretly the Imperial Grand Wizard of the Klu Klux Klan.

The OP is about the political character of Obama's "community activism".
If you want to post about conspiracy theory, I'm sure you can find somewhere else to do it.
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Every time I hear the name Obama,I get pissed that the British didn't send more troops to defeat George Washington's military coup.
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So she essentially connived in a Chicago version of 'Care in the Community', penny-pinching by getting rid of the poor they were being subsidised to look after. How responsible was she herself, did she actually 'engineer', or partially do so, the scheme to get rid of the poorer patients? I'm mindful that the source here is Fox News.

If she did then it just shows how psychopathically good some people are at acting as if they are the total opposite to what they really are...
She did, and was very highly paid for doing it. Here's the original report the Malkin's blog was based on:

Obama Camp Has Many Ties to Wife's Employer - washingtonpost.com

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Shortly after Barack Obama joined the U.S. Senate in 2005, the medical center promoted Michelle Obama to vice president of community and external relations, and more than doubled her salary. She is now on leave from the $317,000-a-year post, in which she sought to bridge the gap between the wealthy institution and its poorer neighbors. The hospital declined to discuss the budget for her program or her input into budgetary decisions
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The hospital's general counsel, Susan Sher, said she approached Michelle Obama in 2001 and asked her to develop plans to bring the hospital closer to the surrounding neighborhood. Sher is a longtime friend of Michelle Obama; they worked together at Chicago City Hall, where Sher was head of Mayor Richard M. Daley's law department.

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"We really didn't know what this office would be, so it was really her creation," Sher said. Today, Sher said, Obama's office has grown to include more than 20 staffers and has proved a success at boosting the medical center's image.

The hospital told state regulators it spent $10 million on charity care for the poor in fiscal 2007 -- 1.3 percent of its total hospital expenses, according to an analysis performed for The Washington Post by the bipartisan, nonprofit Center for Tax and Budget Accountability. That is below the 2.1 percent average for nonprofit hospitals in Cook County.
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As a nonprofit, the University of Chicago Medical Center receives annual tax breaks worth nearly five times as much as it spends on charity care, the analysis found.
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"That's shameful," Young said of the percentages. "They are arguably, if not defrauding, then at least taking advantage of a public subsidy. We would like to see them give more than the minimum. The need is there."
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Edward Novak, president of Chicago's Sacred Heart Hospital, declined to discuss the center's initiative in particular but dismissed as "bull" attempts to justify such programs as good for patients. "What they're really saying is, 'Don't use our emergency room because it will cost us money, and we don't want the public-aid population,' " Novak said.
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Nice selective quoting there, cactusflower.

I'm still a little mystified about your exact point?

Edit: More from the above article--wow, if you saw these standing alone, her work sounds pretty awesome and trouble-free, doesn't it?
  • Michelle Obama, an executive at the medical center, launched an innovative program to steer the patients to existing neighborhood clinics to deal with their health needs.
  • The medical center markets its initiative as an effort to improve patient health for the poor and at the same time free its resources for emergencies and complicated procedures.
  • "Michelle inspired us . . . to step back and take a holistic approach to this problem."
  • Howard Peters of the nonprofit Illinois Hospital Association praised the medical center's efforts, saying the ER is not the place to provide patients with primary medical care.
  • The hospital's general counsel, Susan Sher, said she approached Michelle Obama in 2001 and asked her to develop plans to bring the hospital closer to the surrounding neighborhood. Michelle Obama "grew up in this community," Sher said, adding that that makes her uniquely qualified.
  • One of Michelle Obama's signature efforts has been working to relieve crowding in the emergency room, the second-busiest in Chicago. It logs 80,000 visits a year.
  • Backed by a federal grant, Michelle Obama in 2005 launched the South Side Health Collaborative, under which counselors advise patients with noncritical needs that they can receive care elsewhere at a reduced cost. The medical center said in a report that some patients "make frequent visits to the ER because no one in the family has a personal doctor."
  • "Obama's goal is to connect people in the community with doctors at [community health] centers, to let them know that they can use those physicians on a regular basis instead of ignoring symptoms until they send them to the ER, where care can cost five times more."
  • Obama's program has enjoyed favorable news media coverage in Chicago and was eventually expanded into a broader program, the Urban Health Initiative. Under the effort, the hospital has started providing selected clinics with part-time medical personnel and has given $350,000 to enable a nearby clinic to nearly double in size.
  • Center executives said the initiative, on which they spent $2 million last year, could be a national model.
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Michelle Malkin again? Next we'll be hearing from Dr Rush Limbaugh.
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