1300 killed 300 of them children thats evidence ,besides i ttake John Gings word , great shame on Israel

Well Yanshuf, you make your pro-zionist, anti human rights agenda quite clear in here anyway, thats for sure.

As I have said in an earlier comment, your hugely biased posts are extremely patronising and I suggest that you show more respect to the countless decent, well read and educated Irish citizens who frequent this forum if not, perhaps you would refrain from posting your "played out" rhetoric on here. What has been reported by INDEPENDENT sources and all the carnage and devestation we have seen on our screens acts as clear proof of the Israeli war crimes. You talk about "wealth of proof"....wheres your wealth of proof to the contrarary then??

You started this thread and created its "colourful" title.

You supported two specific allegations against Israeli soldiers.

The evidence increasingly (and at this point most likely) points to these being wrong.

Will you, like the NYT, withdraw the your support for allegations made in the OP?

I was not supporting allegations - I was posting a valid news item which has been covered all over the planet.

Also, your assertion that the NYT has withdrawn its support is erroneous - the paper has merely reported that the IDF has refuted the claims and closed their brief investigation.

Strangely, the Israeli government is resisting calls for an independent investigation into the allegations.

Israel says claims over civilian killings 'exaggerated' - The Irish Times - Tue, Mar 31, 2009

he Israeli soldiers did not confirm the reports. it turns out the Israeli soldiers were only repeating gossip. They weren't even in the locations the events they spoke about were alleged to have happened. These soldiers weren't even interviewed by any of the newspapers that ran with the story.

The guardian story was also only based on hearsay and did not provide one shred of evidence.

The UN expert you say accuses Israel of war crimes wasn't even in Gaza at the time. He had been refused entry into Israel and Gaza before the Israeli operation. And regarding the use of white phosphorous; Israel says its use of smoke shells was in accordance with International law and the claim that smoke shells were used to threaten the civilian population in Gaza is baseless. One thing's for sure though; the Palestinians militants' use of rockets to target Israeli civilians is a violation of International humanitarian law and human rights investigators have said that Palestinian militant groups also operated from civilain areas, which is also a violation of international law. Human Rights Watch have said that "the testimony and forensic evidence clearly shows that hamas endangered the civilain population with its tactics".

You just seem to accept all these accusations against Israel without any corroboration. There is no evidence. There are only accusations with no proof whatsoever to back it up.

Just out of curiousity, what kind of evidence would it take to convince you?

Also, if Israel is so interested in disproving these claims why were independent journalists refused entry to Gaza during the conflict?

He is a shill, just the same as that new pleb Geckko. Their only purpose on these forums is to side track debate and propagate the "anti-Isreali" lie.

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Evidence that would 'stand up'. Accusations are not evidence.

You don't seem to remember, or you convienently forget, that in the past hamas has kidnapped aid workers and journalists in Gaza. Egypt also refused to let journalists in through their borders.

Journalists assess the risk and act accordingly. No other "democracy" would ever put a similar ban on journalists who were covering a conflict. Are you suggesting that countries should ban journalists from covering important stories, in dangerous regions, for their own safety?

Hamas has never killed a journalist or aid worker in Gaza - not in my memory anyway - although they have kidnapped both, most recently a BBC journo who was held for four months.

Basically, the ban on journalists means that you will never be convinced by any subsequent reports on the 22-day war - although, it's unlikely you ever would concede any wrong doing by the IDF . Eye witness accounts from Palestinians, UN workers, aid workers, not to mention the use of white phosphorus - none of this "stands up" in your estimation.

Straight Yes/No question for you then - Are you saying that John Ging, head of the UN Relief Agency, is lying through his teeth and making up the Israeli attack on his compound and that the images transmitted at the time were somehow "staged" ?