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Is Irish Left comparable with Nazi Ideology?

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Old 28th September 2009
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Default Land grabbers perhaps?

The people in these photographs most likely settled in the wrong part of town, you know the part where the ethnic cleansing is taking place, how does it work again?... ah yes order the palestinian family out of their house at gunpoint, demolish the house, then build a new house on site and get israeli citizens to move in, and hey not an nazi in sight however stealing land from the palestinians does not go unnoticed, cats out of the bag now boyo, israel is wrong wrong wrong on many fronts.
Forget the nazis, they lasted 10-15 years, old hat by now, the world has moved on, the US and Israel now provide the world with real danger, everlasting war amen, ha! gods sneaky chosen have nukes and will use them, whats next demonize iran and destroy? murdering more innocent people by the thousands again? and you see the irish left as nazi's?
get out of here mr bullsheet!
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This is truly a worthless thread.

Yanshuf, you have utterly failed to support your bizarre claims that the Irish left is in favour of the destruction of Israel. You have equally failed to expose those posting here as anti-Jew.

The only person here with idiotic and offensive ideas is you.

And now you choose to post horrific photographs - this, I suspect is a sign that you have run out of argument. No doubt, somebody could post pictures of dead Palestinians, then we could have a contest to see who can find the most harrowing images.

I understand why you need to believe that the whole world is against you, for it is the only possible justification for the actions of the Israeli military. The sad truth is that Israel has the good will of most people and they wish that it would begin to behave decently so that they could support it.

If people such as you put as much energy into attempting to change the policies of Israel as you do into trying to prove the unprovable then the world would be a better place, I think. Better for Jews, and for Arabs.
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Hey lads , how long has the Irish Left been running Nato ?
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Hey lads , how long has the Irish Left been running Nato ?
Nato has done awful things in Afghanistan, yet not a twit from the -israel bashing birds.

Why? cause Jews are not involved!

Thousands have been killed. but count the threads...

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This is truly a worthless thread.
Maybe, but then, why bother posting in it? It's a strange thing to see someone with a penny psychology can't do the right thing, ah?

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Yanshuf, you have utterly failed to support your bizarre claims that the Irish left is in favour of the destruction of Israel. You have equally failed to expose those posting here as anti-Jew.
You simply skipped my posts where I explained why you are so antisemitic.

But let's leave it there, go do your sould search and then come back.
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[QUOTE=yanshuf;2131140]Nato has done awful things in Afghanistan
Thousands have been killed.QUOTE]

Yes , and israel has lead the world in condemnation of it .

Whoops , no , thats not right ,
they have remained comfortably silent


Why? cause Jews are not involved!
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Israel doesn't have to condemn stuff, it's not a member of the Higher Moral Standardisation Committee, like the Irish Left.

The double standard is not from the side of Israel. It's from your side who's very fast to condemn Israel for its defensive steps, and gives support to terrorists.

If you try to show a higher moral stance, it's not helpful to be a hypocrite, especially when you focus only on one state in the world.
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@ edg - Now you're going into 'Mystic Meg' territory. You can't show ethnic cleansing by Israel in the past or the present (because the facts show there wasn't any) so you try the future. But look at what happened over the last 60 years. the palestinian population of Israeli citizens and of those in the West bank quadrupled. Yet you are claiming the next 100 years will see them wiped out. Have you not thought that if israel wanted them wiped out they would have done it already? They didn't do that because they never had the intention of doing that. And it was the original Zionists who advocated peaceful coexistence and it was the Arab leaders that violently refused. And it was also the Arab leaders who advocated annihilating all the Jews in Israel. These are facts. Where you are trying to go is not fact or based in fact, it's fortune telling - Mystic Meg or the tent at the end of the pier type thing.
Israel is slowly killing the Palestinians.

You dont even recognise them as a people ffs!

Dont give me your Israel is not killing them bull sh1t.

The Palestinians will perish if Israel does not stop killing them.

And people like you are scum for defending them.

You dont need a good sense of foresight to see what the Zionists are doing to those poor people.

You act like a Nazi.
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Israel doesn't have to condemn stuff, it's not a member of the Higher Moral Standardisation Committee, like the Irish Left.

The double standard is not from the side of Israel. It's from your side who's very fast to condemn Israel for its defensive steps, and gives support to terrorists.

If you try to show a higher moral stance, it's not helpful to be a hypocrite, especially when you focus only in one state in the world.
You are without doubt one of the most illogical posters on this site. Being opposed to the existence of Israel in its present form, as an apartheid and terrorist state, does not make one antisemitic. As things stand, Israel is one of the greatest proponents of State terrorism in the globe; the machinery of state repression is primarily used against the weak and defenseless palestinians, to dispossess them, rob them of their land, resources and water supplies and slaughter or imprison those, including israeli citizens, who stand up to israeli aggression. Yes the killings of innocent israeli citizens is reprehensible, but the use of terrorist tactics is fundamentally a reaction by the weaker side against injustices wrought against them by the Israeli army and airforce; rockets are a poor substitute for the high tech firepower of the IDF; guerrillaism is also based on a mistaken analysis of the situation; guerrilla tactics will not avail the palestinian people and only leads them down a blind alley, paved with the death of many innocents and alienating sizeable sections of the Israeli working class.
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Not only did I already back up my posts, but I've showed you more than once that what you post is tantamount to hatred of jews, majority of jews, but you can roll your eyes whatever direction you find fit to try and ignore them facts:

1. you state you hate zionsist. a fact. meaning you hate majority of jews.

2. you support boycotts of Israel, while you try to diminish the importance of such acts against say- Russia, China, Zimbabwe et al. when you know that the boycotts are a display of a political persecution against Israel and no other in the world.

3. You try to equate between Israel and Hamas terrorists, denying Israel's right to defend itself.

I think it's more than enough for now.



Do I weaken it more than when you and your likes equate between Israeli defensive actions and Hamas civilian shellings, or do I weaken it less?



I see some here celebrate on the opportunity to ram Israel over the "ethnic cleansing" it allegedly carried out against the Arabs.

So I'd have to ask, again (as in the last thread this dealt with I didn't get answers), why is this more important than - say - the Beneš decrees that confiscated the land of 2.5 million ethnic Germans and transfered this population to Germany?

Or the same thing that happened to the Germans in Poland when Silesia Germans were transfered to Germany and Polish settlers took their land?

But I get it, if it's the Jews, then it's ok to attack.

And there goes another antisemitic posting.
Look, if you think I am antisemitic for not supporting a political group thats your mistake. Thankfully no other Jewish person I know thinks that way.

I know you would like us to stop our boycott and move onto another country, but tough sh1t.

I will not buy Israeli goods until they learn to stop murdering their neighbours. Neither will the thousands of other Irish who agree with me from THE RIGHT AND THE LEFT WING.

You cheapen the word antisemite as you use it for polititical gain and to describe people who dont support your political gang.

I dont hate Jews and you cant make me.

Lastly, anyone who defends the killing of little children by white phosphorus is a sicko. Thats you, you sick fuc4.
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Israel doesn't have to condemn stuff, it's not a member of the Higher Moral Standardisation Committee, like the Irish Left.

The double standard is not from the side of Israel. It's from your side who's very fast to condemn Israel for its defensive steps, and gives support to terrorists.

If you try to show a higher moral stance, it's not helpful to be a hypocrite, especially when you focus only on one state in the world.
israel is the terrorist .
It was founded by terror , those terrorists were and in some instances still are , it's leaders ,
and it is still engaged in terrorist activities .
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