taylor - do you mind if i ask you a personal question?
How old are you? - you sound young.
I'm just curious - that's all

We are still waiting for you Conor. Go back to the Liberty thread and tell us again that the pilots could not see the flag.

Then we can all laugh at you on 2 threads.

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Clearly you didn't read the link.

Bully? Very true, along with foul mouthed- thuggish , etc too while you're describing yourself.
The question should be why anybody would show such inordinate hostility to,
and indeed act very like somebody with something to fear, from free open enquiry, one wonders.


This just goes to prove that dis-information, spin and outright propaganda impresses official account conspiracy theory gulls more than actually pesky facts.

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If you're interested on the mechanics of the structural collapse on the day in question I can email you a dissertation I did in the course of my MSc in Structural Engineering into the collapse of WTC 1 and 2. If you would like to read it, pm me you email address and I'll send you on a copy. (In MS Word format) It really does put a lot of the conspiracy theories to bed re the actual collapse. Yes the planes were the catalyst, no there were no explosives, no deliberate severing of structural members. Have also covered WTC 7 separately and yes, fire alone did bring it down due to an oversight in the design that couldn't be predicted as the particular type of structural expansion hadn't been seen before as the building had a unique tapering facade. Can go into more detail if you'd like.

Oh, poor Rufty, you really don't get it, do you.

The freaks who've been prolonging this thread long past its useby date don;t care about pesky things like facts. Your MSc in Structural Engineering only means that you are a tool of the Establishment. All the data you used in your thesis were probably supplied directly by Mossad as part of the coverup.

Did you know that if you Rot-13 your name, you spell the word eshgl, which is clearly code for shegl - the currency your Zionist paymasters paid for your study. It is all so clear.

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To get a peer review any chance you could e mail it to Prof Steven Jones?

No you didn't find explosive. How could you? Did you try to build a scale model of WTC to try to reproduce/ simulate the pulverisation of concrete and speed and mechanism of collapse?

As the floors collapsed by pancake, what fraction of a second did the undamaged floors impede the collapse?

Any chance you could point out how pools of molten metal could run down the stairwells?

What structural engineer made an assessment in 55 mins to get Giuliani out before the South Tower collapsed?


I will PM you for the paper because it will make for interesting reading.

Any chance you could explain how there could be collapsed floors and dead bodies in WTC7 prior to WTC1,2 collapsing?

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No scale model, instead a detailed computer using the following programs ATENA (specificly created for analyzing concrete), STRAND7 and ABAQUS. Very detailed FEA (finite element analysis) packages.

In the report I state that the calculated free fall time was no where near reached. The actual time was almost 33% longer. A sizable difference. (12 seconds for actual collapse against 9.2 seconds calculated free fall).

Pools of molten steel??? Where is the evidence for this?
"What structural engineer made an assessment in 55 mins to get Giuliani out before the South Tower collapsed?" - Again, I'm not sure as to what you are referring but on pre-collapse images of the towers it shows columns clearly beginning to buckle. Any good structural engineer......or anyone else at that would have ordered complete evacuation of the area.

Also with WTC 7, there were NO dead bodies. It was completely evacuated. The mechanic of collapse of WTC7 had to do with standard office fires ignited by debris from initial impact of the planes and then intensified by debris from the collapse of the twin towers. There was no floor collapse (possible partial in very isolated internal areas) before WTC1&2 collapse. Sorry but these are the facts. PM me for the Twin Tower collapse paper. It's actually in simple English in the most part so you should get its meaning even without an Engineering background.

How do you explain the motive behind the prompt destruction of the evidence at the WTC site from a non-engineering point of view?

So, clearly, you examined the physical evidence? Pray tell, where in the world did you find it?