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Default Iraq abuse claims - 16 yr old Iraqi child claims he was raped by British soldiers.

Facts about the behaviour of armed forces during the illegal Iraq war are starting to come to light as many soldiers leave the country and people start to feel safe to tell their stories.

One Iraqi claims that he was raped by two British soldiers in 2003 when he was 16, while others claim they were stripped naked, abused and photographed. Both male and female soldiers are alleged to have taken part in abuse.

British soldiers are accused of piling up Iraqi prisoners on top of one another before subjecting them to electric shocks.

Another victim alleged that two soldiers raped him, subjecting him to a 15-minute ordeal, then slashed him with a knife. He was treated in hospital for cuts and the military police are understood to have secured the medical records. The victim said he was so traumatised he tried to kill himself.

"It was quite shocking actually, that we started seeing a pattern very similar to Abu Ghraib where sex or sexual humiliation is used, like playing porn movies in the corridors while the prisoners are in their solitary cells, especially at prayer times."

"On one occasion, one female soldier tried to have sex with one of the detainees while he was resting after an operation in a hospital bed."

Phil Shiner, who represents Iraqi alleged victims of abuse claims -
"I have it on good authority that there are hundreds of cases that are going uninvestigated.
My guess is that many of them will remain buried."

One father of two died in British custody after recieving 93 seperate injuries.

Bill Rammell, the armed forces minister, rejected suggestions that a full public inquiry should be held into British troops' behaviour in Iraq. He said on BBC Radio 4's Today programme that "there is not any evidence of endemic abuse within the armed forces".

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Hundreds of uninvestigated Iraqi abuse claims against troops, says lawyer | UK news | guardian.co.uk

"People were quite scared of the British, because the level of abuses was so high that people feared that the British could detain them,"

Absolutely shocking stuff.

The British romanticised portrayal of war is being challenged as victims begin to tell of the horrors of war in Iraq.
Although any real truth is likely to come out of Iraq in the next decade it's good to see that some cases are beginning to come through.
The charactatured fictional description of what these wars are about and entail should be challenged at every oppertunity.

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FYI.......16 years of age is not considered a child.
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There should be no hiding place for military or civilians who are found guilty of such horrendous and barbaric acts.

ALL evidence, with regard to such allegations, needs to be released into the relevant hands.
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FYI.......16 years of age is not considered a child.
Calm down there, don't get too upset at abusive rapists and murderers.

I know its a touchy subject but is there any need for such a display of disgust at what has been exposed?

Your reply really does put this whole thing into perspective, nice to see you have your priorities right.

'FYI' the age of adulthood is not defined specifically.
If its for a bus pass its 14, if its to join their dirty army its only 16, if its for alcohal - 18.
Age of consent here is 17.
In my opinion they raped a child amongst many other awful things.

The perverts were hardly looking for an adult to rape if they chose a 16 yr old boy.

This wouldn't be the first time the 'heroes' have been caught raping kids.

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Facts about the behaviour of armed forces during the illegal Iraq war are starting to come to light as many soldiers leave the country and people start to feel safe to tell their stories.

One Iraqi claims that he was raped by two British soldiers in 2003 when he was 16, while others claim they were stripped naked, abused and photographed. Both male and female soldiers are alleged to have taken part in abuse.

British soldiers are accused of piling up Iraqi prisoners on top of one another before subjecting them to electric shocks.

Another victim alleged that two soldiers raped him, subjecting him to a 15-minute ordeal, then slashed him with a knife. He was treated in hospital for cuts and the military police are understood to have secured the medical records. The victim said he was so traumatised he tried to kill himself.

"It was quite shocking actually, that we started seeing a pattern very similar to Abu Ghraib where sex or sexual humiliation is used, like playing porn movies in the corridors while the prisoners are in their solitary cells, especially at prayer times."

"On one occasion, one female soldier tried to have sex with one of the detainees while he was resting after an operation in a hospital bed."

Phil Shiner, who represents Iraqi alleged victims of abuse claims -
"I have it on good authority that there are hundreds of cases that are going uninvestigated.
My guess is that many of them will remain buried."

One father of two died in British custody after recieving 93 seperate injuries.

Bill Rammell, the armed forces minister, rejected suggestions that a full public inquiry should be held into British troops' behaviour in Iraq. He said on BBC Radio 4's Today programme that "there is not any evidence of endemic abuse within the armed forces".

More....
Hundreds of uninvestigated Iraqi abuse claims against troops, says lawyer | UK news | guardian.co.uk

"People were quite scared of the British, because the level of abuses was so high that people feared that the British could detain them,"

Absolutely shocking stuff.

The British romanticised portrayal of war is being challenged as victims begin to tell of the horrors of war in Iraq.
Although any real truth is likely to come out of Iraq in the next decade it's good to see that some cases are beginning to come through.
The charactatured fictional description of what these wars are about and entail should be challenged at every oppertunity.
On your bike, go on over and challenge them.
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FYI.......16 years of age is not considered a child.
Tis no wonder you were once referred to as a tandragee bag
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On your bike, go on over and challenge them.
They are in our country (if you are Irish) so no need to challenge them there. We can challenge their imperialism right here.

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You are one sick pup if this is your only reaction to claims of rape.
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And no incentive at all for some of these stories to be fabricated?
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Facts about the behaviour of armed forces during the illegal Iraq war are starting to come to light as many soldiers leave the country and people start to feel safe to tell their stories.

One Iraqi claims that he was raped by two British soldiers in 2003 when he was 16, while others claim they were stripped naked, abused and photographed. Both male and female soldiers are alleged to have taken part in abuse.

British soldiers are accused of piling up Iraqi prisoners on top of one another before subjecting them to electric shocks.

Another victim alleged that two soldiers raped him, subjecting him to a 15-minute ordeal, then slashed him with a knife. He was treated in hospital for cuts and the military police are understood to have secured the medical records. The victim said he was so traumatised he tried to kill himself.

"It was quite shocking actually, that we started seeing a pattern very similar to Abu Ghraib where sex or sexual humiliation is used, like playing porn movies in the corridors while the prisoners are in their solitary cells, especially at prayer times."

"On one occasion, one female soldier tried to have sex with one of the detainees while he was resting after an operation in a hospital bed."

Phil Shiner, who represents Iraqi alleged victims of abuse claims -
"I have it on good authority that there are hundreds of cases that are going uninvestigated.
My guess is that many of them will remain buried."

One father of two died in British custody after recieving 93 seperate injuries.

Bill Rammell, the armed forces minister, rejected suggestions that a full public inquiry should be held into British troops' behaviour in Iraq. He said on BBC Radio 4's Today programme that "there is not any evidence of endemic abuse within the armed forces".

More....
Hundreds of uninvestigated Iraqi abuse claims against troops, says lawyer | UK news | guardian.co.uk

"People were quite scared of the British, because the level of abuses was so high that people feared that the British could detain them,"

Absolutely shocking stuff.

The British romanticised portrayal of war is being challenged as victims begin to tell of the horrors of war in Iraq.
Although any real truth is likely to come out of Iraq in the next decade it's good to see that some cases are beginning to come through.
The charactatured fictional description of what these wars are about and entail should be challenged at every oppertunity.
Disgusting if true.
Though Irish people should be under no illusion as to the depths british soldiers will stoop to.
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