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Well he could get assasainated then

he would be remembered by R.T.E as the greatest leader we never had

Lot's of future documdramas in tear filled grief at

the loss of the halcion days of being on the brink of a golden era

halcion days Hianas Port (or should that be Westport)
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The obvious answer is -become taoiseach and the gravitas will follow. But i want to see if anyone has any advice to to get him there by projecting a more professional image. This week he has successfully managed the media by staying out of it and delegating roles to those more competant on specific issues. He should stress that his role as leader will be more as a chairman rather than chief but he should cut down that front bench to about 8 big hitters. He should avoid on the hoof interviews were his folksy charm betrays him. He should tell his frontbench attendees at press conferences what he intends to say. He should try and set the agenda rather than follow the irish times/morning ireland agenda. All of these points as obvious so why is he not doing them?
You make it sound like he should ape Sarah Palin's election strategy - never give interviews and rely on innate folksy cuteness with the base
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When RTÉ hold their election debate (whenever that is - perhaps weeks or years away) he should not take part in a Cowen versus Kenny head-to-head.

He should insist on every party leader attending the debate instead. So the it would include - Cowen, Kenny, Gilmore, Gormley and Adams. None of this small debate and big debate that we had at the last election.
What would be the advantage to Kenny in this? He would be out-performed by Gilmore. He would also lose the alternative Taoiseach status. FF and Greens would expose splits in the alternative government (whereas they would be on the same hymn sheet or else at all out war). A photo-op of Kenny beside Adams would scare some of the Blueshirt horses.

Dare I say it - Kenny should just be himself, lose the fake gravitas, the never ending sentences to establish authority and the I just had a make-over look and just act like a bloke who sees his role in government as chairman insetad of chief.
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Enda needs to get more agressive. Like when he gives party speeches. He should get NLP lessons.
Kenny is doing well just look at all his election results,thats what count.Cowen and all his bluster has done nothing progessive since he took over.In fact he just comes across to me as an educated Jackie Healy Rae.
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Enda is the most Taoiseachy person in Fine Gael due to the rest of the Front Bench's ability to nauseate or bore.

Enda has potential although he has been slow to realise it. He needs to act his age not his shoe-size. No more attempts at comedy, no more attempts at being hip. No drama. Cool, clam and collected. Ignore the handlers and play us the missus factor.
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Enda needs to get more agressive. Like when he gives party speeches. He should get NLP lessons.
I dont agree with the aggressive assertion. The electorate don't necessary look for an aggressive leader or are likely to vote for one. Bertie for all his faults could not be described as aggressive but on the other hand Brian Cowen is perceived as dogmatic and aggressive and look how his popularity has fallen on recent times.
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I dont agree with the aggressive assertion. The electorate don't necessary look for an aggressive leader or are likely to vote for one. Bertie for all his faults could not be described as aggressive but on the other hand Brian Cowen is perceived as dogmatic and aggressive and look how his popularity has fallen on recent times.
I agree. Enda has been the model of consistency in since he was appointed. He has done his own thing and stuck by it. As it happens in a time of turmoil, people look for consistency. FF are more concerned with FG than FF (just look at their website).
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Enda is the most Taoiseachy person in Fine Gael due to the rest of the Front Bench's ability to nauseate or bore.

Enda has potential although he has been slow to realise it. He needs to act his age not his shoe-size. No more attempts at comedy, no more attempts at being hip. No drama. Cool, clam and collected. Ignore the handlers and play us the missus factor.
I suggested on another thread - closed by DC as being tiresome and neg rep'ed by HBAP -that this quality was his worst aspect. It comes across as utterly cringey and he has not earned the respect which he should as the longest serving TD and leader of a mainstream party. He has come a long way from telling stories about africans with shiny teeth, but why is he not yet respected?
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