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Kenny gone as leader if Bruton withdraws his support: Times

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Winning 3 GEs along the way. You can have ethics, ideology and policy coming out of your arse but if you can't win an election it's worthless.
Yeah, but look at the Ahern legacy.
Worst taoiseach in the history of the state and hopefully will remain unchallenged for many generations to come.
And you can be quite certain de Bert wont have a Nixon like recovery of his reputation.
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Yeah, but look at the Ahern legacy.
Worst taoiseach in the history of the state and hopefully will remain unchallenged for many generations to come.
And you can be quite certain de Bert wont have a Nixon like recovery of his reputation.
In fairness I think Garret Fitzgerald runs him close. Liam Cosgrave and Jack Lynch didn't cover themselves in glory either but probably not as bad.
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In fairness I think Garret Fitzgerald runs him close. Liam Cosgrave and Jack Lynch didn't cover themselves in glory either but probably not as bad.
You must be still in nappies.
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Yeah, but look at the Ahern legacy.
Worst taoiseach in the history of the state and hopefully will remain unchallenged for many generations to come.
And you can be quite certain de Bert wont have a Nixon like recovery of his reputation.
Before you can be the worst Taoiseach you have to be Taoiseach. Dukes or Noonan might have made excellent Taoisigh or they could have been dire but we'll never know because they weren't good enough to get the job in the first place. The likelihood grows that we'll one day say the same of Kenny.
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You must be still in nappies.
Not at all - I actually remember the 80's which was why I raised the issue.
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Before you can be the worst Taoiseach you have to be Taoiseach. Dukes or Noonan might have made excellent Taoisigh or they could have been dire but we'll never know because they weren't good enough to get the job in the first place. The likelihood grows that we'll one day say the same of Kenny.
Maybe
But we know for sure that Ahern was shjte.
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A good performance from Kenny on 6-1 I thought. He needs to ditch, first, that bloody lop-sided grin thing he does. It just looks weird. And second, his pointy-shouty-outrage routine that we see at LQ's so often. It's just not him or, at least, it's not him except when he's genuinely angry and not when he's just trying to look angry. There was neither tonight, and his more understated style serves him much better.

Most of all though, my God, Sharon looks so hot tonight.
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He got 20 extra seats! It was a clear swing in our favour and from where we came from in 2002 it was a success and Kenny lead that campaign. He also lead us in the locals and through Lisbon!

Yet still lower than the 1997 results.............
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Yet still lower than the 1997 results.............
FF were also lower than their 1997 result after 10 years of bribing the public.
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FF were also lower than their 1997 result after 10 years of bribing the public.
No they weren't. One seat extra and 2.3% higher actually.

I also note that FG did their best to join the old auction politics themselves. How much would the proposals in your 2002 and 2007 manifestos cost again? Not to mention Richard Bruton's little policy of abolishing stamp duty at the height of the bubble. Real sensible.

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