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How can the Single Party (FF) State be ended?

This is a discussion on How can the Single Party (FF) State be ended? within the Fianna Fáil forums, part of the Political Parties category on Politics.ie. Originally Posted by Tiernanator Good post. Tactical voting needs to happen this time around. I am a Sinn Féiner as ...
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Good post. Tactical voting needs to happen this time around. I am a Sinn Féiner as everyone knows but when I canvas my large extended family in Donegal most of them are SF 1st preference then usually FF. This time around I will be asking them to transfer to whatever candidate FG or Labour that beats FF. Sad thing is that many local Donegal FF people are really decent and therefore it is a pity that they have to suffer because of the government's behaviour. Still it might do FF a world of good to be on the opposition benches for a few elections. I am sure it would bring many new people to the party after it decontaminates itself from the bad aspects, (there were some good aspects as well), of the Ahern/Cowen years.
The danger is that people will once again punish ff in the locals and come back to them in the general. A two-election strategy is required by fg, sf and labour..
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I mentioned this ages ago, but worth bringing up again. Before the 1997 UK general election, an organisation was set up to advise people who to vote for in order to get the Tories out.

They did a constituency-by-constituency list of each candidate most likely to defeat every Conservative MP or candidate, based on up to date poll data. Result? Labour's landslide of 1997, (for good or ill) from which the Tories are only now starting to recover.

I remember at the time that someone here (think it was Sidewinder) said they'd be interested in a similar project here to get rid of Fianna Fail.

More complicated with STV of course, but do-able, surely?
can anyone give an example of such, in a seat thats not too marginal not too safe
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can anyone give an example of such, in a seat thats not too marginal not too safe
In 2007, ff td ivor callaly got over 20% of the first preference but because sfa of the green and labour votes went to him, finian mcgrath doubled his final count vote from his first count tally and was elected. Callaly was the highest vote getting loser.
Obviously cyp brady would be in danger. As would second seats all over the country.
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But is recognised by 72% of the electorate and large portion of FF members, that the Party needs to get out of power. For the good of the country and the Party itself
You seem to forget that it was the people who have continuously elected FF to office

The current FF government is making the right decisions, and they aren't popular, but need to be made

What's your alternative? Rule by opinion poll and bankrupt the country??

The recent opinion in the SBP has shown that people have started to understand that difficult decisions need to be made, it's in their interests, and the interests of the country that we do take hard decisions now.
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well as part of the celebrations of the end of communism/dictatorships in Europe
BBC last night had a documentary on the Romanian leader Ceauşescu
Ireland is a parlimentary demoncracy, so what point are you trying to make?
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FF needs to be removed from power, and its leaders put on trial for treason.
You should look up the defination of treason

Like it or not, the people ELECTED FF to office, get used to it
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You should look up the defination of treason

Like it or not, the people ELECTED FF to office, get used to it
Incorrect, the Greens sold their soul and put FF into power.
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What's your alternative? Rule by opinion poll and bankrupt the country??
FF have already bankrupted the country, for the third time.
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FF have been a disaster for this country both socially and economically and have deprived the Irish people of a truly prosperous , socially balanced and progressive society.
Are you mad, or blind, or both??

- Doubling the number of people at work

- Huge investment in neccessary infrastructure

- Pension reserve fund

- ** GOOD FRIDAY AGREEMENT **
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- Doubling the number of people at work
+ putting them out of work again.

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- Huge investment in neccessary infrastructure
we still dont have a joined up transport system, our rail network is a laughing stock.

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- Pension reserve fund
I laughed when I read this. No need to say anymore about it

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- ** GOOD FRIDAY AGREEMENT **

Was made between the IRA, Unionists and the Brits. The main work was done by John Hume, Gerry Adams and David Trimble. FF made the tea and biscuits. Please note, FF voted against the Anglo Irish Agreement.
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