Politics.ie
Advertise on Politics.ie

Go Back   Politics.ie > Topical Discussion > Europe

Hey there!

It looks like you're enjoying Politics.ie but haven't created an account yet. Why not take a minute to register for your own free account now? As a member you get free access to all of our forums and posts plus the ability to post your own messages, communicate directly with other members and much more. Joining Politics.ie is completely free. Register now!

Already a member? Login at the top of this page to stop seeing this message.

Simons is a "mother of five" - why should we care?

This is a discussion on Simons is a "mother of five" - why should we care? within the Europe forums, part of the Topical Discussion category on Politics.ie. Originally Posted by Geekzilla Then why didn't she list that? It's already well known. Originally Posted by Geekzilla Which could ...

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #61 (permalink)  
Old 18th May 2009
Politics.ie Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Night of the Senses
Posts: 5,556
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Geekzilla View Post
Then why didn't she list that?
It's already well known.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Geekzilla View Post
Which could be said of every other candidate.
Yes and I only mentioned it to contrast it with the plastic braggadocio of the anonymous internet twerps here, led vociferously by Young Fine Gael.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Geekzilla View Post
Then why didn't she list those?
Assuming that she didn't, maybe she felt it was necessary to highlight the serious deficiencies of her opponents.

Criticism can be a positive thing.
__________________
"The perfect liberty they seek is the liberty of making slaves of other people." -- Abraham Lincoln


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote

Advertise on Politics.ie

  #62 (permalink)  
Old 18th May 2009
Politics.ie Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 1,309
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Almanac View Post
It's already well known.
She could have listed it as an example of her experience.
Quote:
Assuming that she didn't, maybe she felt it was necessary to highlight the serious deficiencies of her opponents.

Criticism can be a positive thing.
Like her comments on Pronsias de Rossa?
Reply With Quote
  #63 (permalink)  
Old 18th May 2009
Politics.ie Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 1,279
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by oceanclub View Post
Strangely enough, she isn't running on a pro-life platform. Are you saying she is?

If not, then how does that show "guts"? As Geekzilla says, she certainly didn't have the "guts" to list this on her own leaflet! She could have easily fit it in by removing an attack or two on her opponents.
Does Ivana Bacik have the "guts" to mention her pro-life views in her election literature?
Reply With Quote
  #64 (permalink)  
Old 18th May 2009
oceanclub's Avatar
Politics.ie Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Dublin, Ireland
Posts: 1,672
Send a message via Yahoo to oceanclub
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Proposition Joe View Post
Does Ivana Bacik have the "guts" to mention her pro-life views in her election literature?
Haven't seen her leaflet, but on her website:

People - Senator Ivana Bacik - Home Page

Third paragraph in:

Quote:
Ivana graduated from Trinity with a law degree in 1989, was President of TCD Students’ Union from 1989-1990. During her term she and her colleagues in Trinity were taken to court by the Society for the Protection of the Unborn Child (SPUC) for providing information regarding abortion services in the UK. Ivana and the students were defended by future President Mary Robinson in a case that paved the way for legal change in favour of women’s rights.
Seems very open about her pro-choice stance.

Does Simons have a web site? No search on Google produces anything except a bland Facebook page.

P.
__________________
Which VI said what:
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote
  #65 (permalink)  
Old 18th May 2009
myk's Avatar
myk myk is offline
Politics.ie Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 3,799
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by FutureTaoiseach View Post
Motherhood is the most important job on the planet.
It is also on of the easiest ones to get!
Reply With Quote
  #66 (permalink)  
Old 18th May 2009
Politics.ie Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 1,279
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by oceanclub View Post
Haven't seen her leaflet, but on her website:

People - Senator Ivana Bacik - Home Page

Third paragraph in:

Seems very open about her pro-choice stance.
I'd suspect the material on the web is intended to play to an entirely different audience ... those more likely to vote her into the Dublin University Seanad seat as opposed to the Dublin Central Dail seat.

I would doubt very much she's pushing the pro-choice line to the aul wans on the doorsteps of Drumcondra.

Quote:
Originally Posted by oceanclub View Post
Does Simons have a web site?
Dunno about a website, I'm not a fan of Simons.

It just seems a little odd and inconsistent the different standard by which Libertas is judged in the media and on this site, as compared to the latitude allowed to the mainstream parties.

Last edited by Proposition Joe; 18th May 2009 at 07:52 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #67 (permalink)  
Old 18th May 2009
Pauli's Avatar
Politics.ie Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: In darkest Kanton Jura.
Posts: 6,198
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mccafferty cat View Post
Everyone here knows what these lines on her leaflets translates as, and who it is aimed at.

It may as well say: "Five children, no abortions".
I wouldn't read so much into it. She is an inexperienced (putative) politician. So her "credits" are a bit thin. Ok She has five kids. So what? Read into that what you will but abortion angle?? Don't think so.
__________________
A country which refuses to enforce its own laws has no future.
Reply With Quote
  #68 (permalink)  
Old 18th May 2009
oceanclub's Avatar
Politics.ie Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Dublin, Ireland
Posts: 1,672
Send a message via Yahoo to oceanclub
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Proposition Joe View Post
I'd suspect the material on the web is intended to play to an entirely different audience ... those more likely to vote her into the Dublin University Seanad seat as opposed to the Dublin Central Dail seat.
Yeah, everyone knows that people from the inner city are too stupid to use the Internet.

P.
__________________
Which VI said what:
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote
  #69 (permalink)  
Old 18th May 2009
FutureTaoiseach's Avatar
Politics.ie Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Nationalist Ireland
Posts: 30,870
Default

She'll be on Q+A tonight in a Dublin euro election-special. Will be interesting to see if she can make up any ground.
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote
  #70 (permalink)  
Old 19th May 2009
Politics.ie Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Night of the Senses
Posts: 5,556
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Geekzilla View Post
Like her comments on Pronsias de Rossa?
Yes. Her intention was clear. Do you honestly think someone who publicly opposes euthanasia would be ageist? What she was saying was that it was time for change, that De Rossa had only the same tired and jaded cliches and policies to offer.
__________________
"The perfect liberty they seek is the liberty of making slaves of other people." -- Abraham Lincoln


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
caroline simons, ivana bacik, libertas

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
"Gay marriage rights not a competence of the EU" - Caroline Simons mccafferty cat Europe 55 30th May 2009 06:45 PM
"Caroline Simons has not nominated any substitutes." locke Elections 7 14th May 2009 10:34 AM
"my mother is unhappy" Spectre of emigration pete2 Current Affairs 14 12th May 2009 07:03 PM
"We'll never get justice" says mother of Irishman shot by US police. Mr Crowley Justice 21 24th March 2009 02:11 PM
palin dodges questions; americans "don't care" petey US Politics 33 12th September 2008 04:28 PM


Advertise on Politics.ie

All times are GMT. The time now is 02:27 AM.