Politics.ie
Advertise on Politics.ie

Go Back   Politics.ie > Topical Discussion > Environment

Hey there!

It looks like you're enjoying Politics.ie but haven't created an account yet. Why not take a minute to register for your own free account now? As a member you get free access to all of our forums and posts plus the ability to post your own messages, communicate directly with other members and much more. Joining Politics.ie is completely free. Register now!

Already a member? Login at the top of this page to stop seeing this message.

Eddie Hobbs: "We are now at Peak Oil"

This is a discussion on Eddie Hobbs: "We are now at Peak Oil" within the Environment forums, part of the Topical Discussion category on Politics.ie. [quote=Kensington;1829399]. Im toom know what i am talking about. I have researched the issue extensivlely at an academic level. Good ...

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #31 (permalink)  
Old 1st July 2009
Politics.ie Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Dublin
Posts: 4,190
Default

[quote=Kensington;1829399].

Quote:
Im toom know what i am talking about. I have researched the issue extensivlely at an academic level.
Good to know

Quote:
We know that wind power has serious limitations and will not become the major component of our fuel-mix in the foreseeable future. Some people think that we can run this country almost exclusively on wind in the next 20 or 30 years. They are being mislead and the CER and ESB national Grid have publically available reports that demonstate this.
Who is we, your credibility is diminishing fast, I assume you meant ESB networks, their job is to transport electricity, the CER is the regulator, who are studying the impact of renewables on an ongoing basis, the people I think you need to talk to about the grid, is EIRGRID

Quote:
We also know that Bord Gais's opinion on our long-term gas security is incredibly optimistic. The British energy white paper says, in black and white, that they will be facing gas shortages in the next 15 to 20 years. So, what do we do then?

Our LNG plant may not be built for another 5 years and does the Government even have a plan to ensure we have access to shipments? No, they do not. The free-market will not be Ireland's friend in this regard.
I thought it was fianna fail's position that the corrib field will provide our gas needs for years

Quote:
If one is being honest and aware of the situation, they must recognise that we need to go nuclear.
If you say so
__________________
Regards, Pat Gill
My posting name does not indicate my political views
labourure or greenure, do not have the same ding.
Reply With Quote

Advertise on Politics.ie

  #32 (permalink)  
Old 1st July 2009
Politics.ie Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Dublin
Posts: 4,190
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cactusflower View Post
I heard Eddie Hobbs talking about this on another occasion - he was also pushing "Spirit of Ireland" for more than it was worth. I think he has just made a business decision to get into promoting renewables now that property has gone sideways.

Yes, we may well have reached peak oil. As food production depends heavily on oil this is a serious thing.
Everyone is welcome at S of I except geckko who would eat us out of house and home
__________________
Regards, Pat Gill
My posting name does not indicate my political views
labourure or greenure, do not have the same ding.
Reply With Quote
  #33 (permalink)  
Old 1st July 2009
Politics.ie Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 5,333
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by fiannafailure View Post
I assume you meant ESB networks, their job is to transport electricity, the CER is the regulator, who are studying the impact of renewables on an ongoing basis, the people I think you need to talk to about the grid, is EIRGRID
Don't you love how simple it all is?
Reply With Quote
  #34 (permalink)  
Old 1st July 2009
Politics.ie Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Dublin
Posts: 4,190
Default

[quote=Kensington;1829437]SPN,

Quote:
I read that green pamphlet too, it's shoddy
It also happens to be accepted best practice worldwide to have a high percentage of spinning reserve available at seconds notice

Quote:
I would love to build CHP plants, but we have got to be realistic. They would have to be powered by gas and we have got to move away from fossil fuels. Our supplies are not secure in the longterm.
Who told you CHP plants have to be gas powered, he fibbed
__________________
Regards, Pat Gill
My posting name does not indicate my political views
labourure or greenure, do not have the same ding.
Reply With Quote
  #35 (permalink)  
Old 1st July 2009
Politics.ie Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Dublin
Posts: 4,190
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by wombat View Post
don't you love how simple it all is?
yep
__________________
Regards, Pat Gill
My posting name does not indicate my political views
labourure or greenure, do not have the same ding.
Reply With Quote
  #36 (permalink)  
Old 1st July 2009
Politics.ie Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Dublin
Posts: 4,190
Default

Kensington
Craig Ventor has just announced the discovery of bacteria that digest coal and excrete methane, the plot thickens and gets more complicated everyday
__________________
Regards, Pat Gill
My posting name does not indicate my political views
labourure or greenure, do not have the same ding.
Reply With Quote
  #37 (permalink)  
Old 1st July 2009
SPN SPN is online now
Politics.ie Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 7,998
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kensington View Post
SPN,

I read that green pamphlet too, it's shoddy.

One would not a backup plant. Nuclear is incredibly reliable and we will have gas plants anyway.

It would fit on our grid. What type are you refering to?

It would take about 10 years to go from the decsion to build one to it being operational. It would need to be built by the state, nuclear power is cheaper than offshore wind. Uranium supply would not be a problem, where are your sources that it will peak soon?

I would love to build CHP plants, but we have got to be realistic. They would have to be powered by gas and we have got to move away from fossil fuels. Our supplies are not secure in the longterm.
You aren't up to speed on the subject if you believe that lot of rubbish. So many errors of fact it isn't funny.
__________________
"Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest." Mark Twain

“When a government is dependent upon bankers for money, they and not the leaders of the government control the situation, since the hand that gives is above the hand that takes. Money has no motherland; financiers are without patriotism and without decency; their sole object is gain.” Napoléon Bonaparte
Reply With Quote
  #38 (permalink)  
Old 1st July 2009
Politics.ie Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 708
Default

fiannafailure,

I know very well who to speak to. You are just wrong, unfortuantely. Here, have a read of these.

http://www.eirgrid.com/media/2004%20...e%20above).pdf

http://www.cer.ie/cerdocs/cer03024.pdf

It is common knowledge that there is a limit to the amount of wind energy a grid can accomadate. We are the only country who appears to be ignoring that.

Quote:
It also happens to be accepted best practice worldwide to have a high percentage of spinning reserve available at seconds notice
Ya, i know, so what?

Quote:
Who told you CHP plants have to be gas powered, he fibbed
If we built alot of CHP plants as suggested, they would have to be powered by gas. Think about it.

Quote:
I thought it was fianna fail's position that the corrib field will provide our gas needs for years
They fibbed.
__________________
"...Money exists not by nature but by law." Aristotle (Ethics, 1133)
Reply With Quote
  #39 (permalink)  
Old 1st July 2009
Politics.ie Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Dublin
Posts: 4,190
Default

Kensington, did you happen to read the dates on those reports, look forward to the next ones.

What is the common must have, for both nuclear and wind power, without which, neither is a commercial proposition ?
__________________
Regards, Pat Gill
My posting name does not indicate my political views
labourure or greenure, do not have the same ding.
Reply With Quote
  #40 (permalink)  
Old 1st July 2009
Politics.ie Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 708
Default

SPN,

best practice indicates that the biggest plant on a grid should generate no more than 10% to 15% of the total. Ireland's grid is now around 9000 MW. CANDU make very popular 700 MW reactors. They are getting smaller all the time.

Check the IEA's position on Uranium resources and, for that matter, the British white paper in energy. You will be unpleasently surprised. We would only need 20 tonnes a year. We could easily get one large shipment which could last us a decade.

We would not even have to worry about the waste.

__________________
"...Money exists not by nature but by law." Aristotle (Ethics, 1133)
Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
climate change, eddie hobbs, john gormley, peak oil, transition town

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Sick of hearing "Eddie Hobbs" judehamilton Culture & Community 13 24th April 2009 10:58 AM
PC gone Mad! - Oxford University Press has removed words like "aisle", "bishop", "cha Catalpa Current Affairs 18 5th January 2009 07:03 PM
Eddie Hobbs & "property investment opportunities&qu campbeca Economy 12 24th September 2007 04:15 PM
Eddie Hobbs threatens Government: "I'll be back!" TheChief Current Affairs 6 5th September 2005 03:39 PM
Eddie Hobbs "Flawed, Biased & Sensationalist" TKwhiskers Current Affairs 6 22nd August 2005 09:35 AM


Advertise on Politics.ie

All times are GMT. The time now is 09:22 PM.