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Eddie Hobbs: "We are now at Peak Oil"

This is a discussion on Eddie Hobbs: "We are now at Peak Oil" within the Environment forums, part of the Topical Discussion category on Politics.ie. Originally Posted by Geckko To refuse to consider properly new information and revise your views is know as cognative dissonance, ...

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To refuse to consider properly new information and revise your views is know as cognative dissonance, which leads to major errors in judgment.
Which language do want me say the words in
I remain open to new arguments on any subject, I think the polar bear bite is affecting your cognitive abilities
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Thewse peak oilers are just nuts - how many years experience of the oil industry has Hobbs? the oil companies have no fear - we are not even close to peak oil, so just relax and rev those engines - we have tons of the stuff - no panic here - move along folks
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Thewse peak oilers are just nuts - how many years experience of the oil industry has Hobbs? the oil companies have no fear - we are not even close to peak oil, so just relax and rev those engines - we have tons of the stuff - no panic here - move along folks
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I remain open to new arguments on any subject, I think the polar bear bite is affecting your cognitive abilities
Evidence of berhaviour on this forum suggests otherwise.

Let's test you with one example.

You have raised on more than one occasion the potential for the SoI project to employe people (or even the extention "employ people in export industries") as an unambiguous reason why this project is of benefit.

In one example you cite "46,000 people employed in Denmark".

Are you open to accepting that this in fact not something that could be used to support the project and could in fact be a negative indicator?
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Thewse peak oilers are just nuts - how many years experience of the oil industry has Hobbs? the oil companies have no fear - we are not even close to peak oil, so just relax and rev those engines - we have tons of the stuff - no panic here - move along folks
What is amazing is the way these theories get recycled decade after decade after decade. Be they running out of oil, or running out of food or running out of raw materials.

The whole "living beyond the capacity of the planet" garbage in fact.
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Not of me - long pockets and short arms, and I always wear the other trousers
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Evidence of berhaviour on this forum suggests otherwise.

Let's test you with one example.

You have raised on more than one occasion the potential for the SoI project to employe people (or even the extention "employ people in export industries") as an unambiguous reason why this project is of benefit.

In one example you cite "46,000 people employed in Denmark".

Are you open to accepting that this in fact not something that could be used to support the project and could in fact be a negative indicator?
If you can show me how go ahead and I will debate you on it
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If you can show me how go ahead and I will debate you on it
That is revealing in itself. You don't seem to have thought about it.

Why do you think such claims or data is evidence in support of your claims?
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That is revealing in itself. You don't seem to have thought about it.

Why do you think such claims or data is evidence in support of your claims?
I have thought about I cannot see anything wrong with giving someone a job, PLEASE explain to how that can not be a good thing
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I have thought about I cannot see anything wrong with giving someone a job, PLEASE explain to how that can not be a good thing
I just wanted to establish that you bleieve that this is a positive thing in itself before we discuss. I don't want you to turn around and say something like "yes, but in the case of SoI it will also do this this and this".

You see?

Do you maintain that this job creation argument of yours is a free standing one and you won't subsequently add other conditions to it as we discuss?
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