Really off the shelf engineering. Your having a laugh. There is not one engineer that would consider such a project off the shelf. That is an insult to my profession.

Furthermore we have one salt water PSH in the world. Please redefine your off the shelf definition.

And you still have not explained the term profit value for water and refuted my arguements (that are backed up I may add) that using salt water would make the system more expensive.

Oil into water: alchemy I tells ya

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What particular aspect would you consider difficult

Yes I suppose you are correct, S of I version is even simpler, nature has done most of the work

Easily provisioned by the cheaper civil engineering

Cant Help That

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that's 15 cents in the reservoir. Then you need to add generation costs (to turn water into electricity) You need to add transmission costs (there is obviously a charge for using the grid, maintenance, depreciation, meter reading etc. Then you need to add profit margin, admin costs (billing customer service etc) etc etc etc...

Errrr no..

That's 15 cents in the reservoir..........

Long way from reservoir to usable electricity in the home, Lots and lots of extra costs see my post above.

You really really should think before answering, makes you look foolish....

So you are standing over €50 per MW Hour ?

Say €70 max ??

Before I answer you need to be 100% sure because I don't want you changing your mind later after I go to the bother of posting...

Do you want to look at the presentation again ? Do you want to look at what the revenue figures will be based on these new figures ? Do you want to look at the costs and payback periods ?

Tell you what I will leave it until tomorrow before I answer just in case you want to change your mind.

I don't want you looking foolish again.......

Sparkey,

Snake oil salesmen can never be afraid of looking foolish, when there are snipers hiding in the long grass, taking pot shots at targets of opportunity. I am resigned to not seeing my girlfriend or wife again, or at least until I could be bothered to put together a 10 or 20 page summary just for you. By the way the next scheduled presentation may be in jeopardy, as it has been so oversubscribed that a big enough venue is now being searched for, and it wasn't anybody from S of I who told me that, this snake oil business is great.

And please read the words that went with those figures. Wholesale off peak sales value.

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Sparkey
I wasn't aware that S of I had decided to go into the retail end of the business, but I have been talking to you for so long anything is possible, so take what, 10% to cover generation and misc. S of I propose to own some of the grid as a TAO so can give themselves a bit of a deal and sure if push comes to shove, luckily at this stage we are only talking, when the business plan is published, we can really have a go at each other

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Apply that logic to the coal yards at Moneypoint, it didn't seem to put ESB off building that huge edifice

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See Richard Tol has found a new admirer.


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You are having a laugh right; what part wopuld you consider difficult? SOI will be building the biggest turbine pump operation in the world for a saltwater application for one. Jesus. What part do you think is easy?

And the SOI version is evne simplier? No it is much more complicated as it is maybe ten times bigger.

So we have gone from profit valve for water to oil to cheaper engineering. Come on explain your original term clearly

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