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This is a discussion on Energy Security within the Environment forums, part of the Topical Discussion category on Politics.ie. Energy Security is one of the biggest problems facing Ireland at present. A significant percentage of our electricity is generated ...
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| Energy Security is one of the biggest problems facing Ireland at present. A significant percentage of our electricity is generated from Natural Gas, but Europe's Natural Gas supplies are coming, more and more, from Siberia and Algeria, as the North Sea and other fields go into decline. When the Ukrainians recently started skimming off gas destined for Europe, the Belgians decided to skim off supplies destined for the UK and Ireland so that they could fill their storage facilities to capacity. This thread is to record media coverage of Energy related issues. Ireland ‘risks gas shortage if British supplies run low’ Quote:
U.K. Gas Jumps to a Record Because Supplies May Not Meet Demand Quote:
The last paragraph is the most interesting, and it brings to mind the price gouging in California by Enron & co. Quote:
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'No threat to gas supply' Quote:
On the other side of the equation, we could start developing an indigenous Energy Industry. Irish Bioenergy Association Quote:
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| I think it was either Sweden or Finland (or both!) who have made it a policy to get off hydrocarbon fuels completely within the next 40 years? They've got a big research prgramme going on into renewables. We should join in, share the costs, perhaps concentrate on wind, wave and biomass (being a fertile country) while they look into geothermal, hydro etc. Isn't this exactly the kind of thing would also secure the futures of our farmers? I know I've heard something about the sugar beet industry going belly-up. If our farmers were growing biomass for energy production (both domestic and export) they'd be in a much better position long-term than having to rely on EU handouts anyway.
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__________________ "Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest." Mark Twain “When a government is dependent upon bankers for money, they and not the leaders of the government control the situation, since the hand that gives is above the hand that takes. Money has no motherland; financiers are without patriotism and without decency; their sole object is gain.” Napoléon Bonaparte |
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For a start the Swedes were well ahead of the game. I'm by no means an expert on the subject but they have been investing hugely in researching and implementing renewables since the 1980's (at least ). In 2003, 40% of their energy was from renewables. We have some catching up just to get to that point. The most important question is how we would finance it. The Swedes willingly pay higher taxes to fund this kind of thing. Are Irish people prepared to do the same? |
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The day is none too far off when energy will be very expensive. I have always said it is far too cheap and always has been and people are astonished. Fuel poverty has to be tackled concurrently with energy security. In a rich country like Ireland, no-one should be cold, no-one should be unable to cook food or draw water. Furthermore, the sooner a personal pollution/energy quota system comes in, the better, providing energy poverty is dealt with.
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| Relevant: http://sustainable.ie/convergence/
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The cost of investing now will be much lower than trying to invest in an economy that is being retarded by high energy prices. The benefit for Ireland Inc is that the investment would be in developing indigenous industries, and replacing the money that gets spent on new palaces in the Saudi desert, on new players for Chelsea Rangers, and on social and infrastructure expenditure in Norway, with money that would stay in the Irish economy. Have a look at what Chevron-Texaco have to say on the issue. Closer to home, I'd recommend anyone with an interest in the subject to have a read of the minutes of this meeting of the DOEHLG Committee from April 6th 2005 Energy Performance in the Construction Industry: Presentation and also this article from Construct Ireland Magazine, which shows clearly how political change can be effected when Politicians put their minds to it. Fingal Commits to Sustainable Building There's lots of stuff being done on the ground, but until we get a Minister for Energy there won't be enough focus given to this important issue at Cabinet level.
__________________ "Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest." Mark Twain “When a government is dependent upon bankers for money, they and not the leaders of the government control the situation, since the hand that gives is above the hand that takes. Money has no motherland; financiers are without patriotism and without decency; their sole object is gain.” Napoléon Bonaparte |
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