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| I really don't get it. Is this an e-mail Moe Lane (whoever he is) sent to the scientists advising them of whistleblower legislation? Is it an e-mail sent by the U.S. authorities who are launching an investigation? Is it an e-mail sent by a nigerian prince who needs to transfer his wealth out of the country and needs their account details? There was zero information in that link, certainly not enough to merit it's own slanderous thread that implies that there has been accounting fraud at the earth system science centre? I suspect that this was just a piece of awful propaganda, a fishing exercise from a right wing blogger who sent some e-mails and then posted an article about them which has been crossposted. probably on 10,000 web forums by now to try and dirty the names of these scientists by linking their names with fraud and embezzelment.
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Delingpole is stil an arrogent littl tït though
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Basically, it's an e-mail dreamt up by 'climategate.com' where firm of lawyers along with a former CIA agent Kent Clizbe are trying to bribe collegues of Michael Mann into turning out evidence of fraud. It is not an indication that there is a criminal investigation in to fraud at the Earth Science centre or even that there is any evidence to suggest that any fraud has taken place. What it does do is highlight what the victims of 'climategate' are up against. An organised campaign to disrupt their scientific work. It's vicious political propaganda from the U.S. conservative right who are opposed to global warming theory on purely ideological grounds
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It is a bit of a leap to state the hacked e-mails constitute any proof of fraud, but there is an investigation underway which we ought to wait for before concluding that there was deliberate fraud at CRU or that data was falsified. Most of the most common talking points in those e-mails have been spun and misrepresented in a crude and extremely dishonest manner by the talk radio hosts and the bloggers, of the rest of the e-mails what is most apparent is not what is in the e-mails, but what is absent. There is a lot of giving out about the tactics of individuals like Mcyntire and Watts, and there is talk of trying to keep certain research documents out of the journals (on the basis that the science was of appalling standard rather than an attempt to prevent good scientific evidence out of the journals because it contradicts their own findings) But the e-mails don't show any concerted effort to prevent any reputable scientists from publishing any contrary research as long as it is of an appropriate standard. See the youtube link in my signiture for a more better explanation of why the 'Climategage' emails do not damage the science of global warming or indicate any real fraud
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| Akrasia, you do yourself no favours by trying to excuse the activities of the CRU and Michael Mann by implication. They have been caught climbing out of the window with a bag marked swag and the alarmists, along with the help of AP and other media outlets continue to excuse their behaviour. But I suppose we can't expect much better from the AGW movement, their currency is hyperbole, exaggeration and lies. |
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It sounds like a really dodgy law. I wonder who would get to decide whether the data has been 'massaged or fudged'. I doubt any judges would be qualified to interpret raw climate data, and by its nature, climate data has to be adjusted in order for it to be useful.
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Examples of where this lie was used by Sarah Palin Pro & Con: Does 'Climate-gate' cast doubt on global warming claims? - Minnesotans For Global Warming Alex Jones Hide The Decline – Climategate (reposting of alex jones newsletter) Fox New Hemmer falsely claims CRU emails show scientists hiding "evidence of a decline in global temperatures" | Media Matters for America Telegraph Climategate: University of East Anglia U-turn in climate change row - Telegraph Random blogs Climate Researchers' Leaked "hide the decline" in data about temperatures. - Page 2 “Hide the Decline”: Global Warmists Got Some ‘Splainin’ to Do :All That Is Necessary… IPCC Database Hacked: “….to Hide the Decline” of Global Temperature Euro-med Could go on and on but you get the picture
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