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Business Post/Red C Poll 31/05

This is a discussion on Business Post/Red C Poll 31/05 within the Elections forums, part of the General Discussion category on Politics.ie. Originally Posted by wombat So which of them are you? I'm signing off. I just thought I'd pass on the ...

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So which of them are you?
I'm signing off. I just thought I'd pass on the info because the value of this site is that it has ended the culture of there being a political "golden circle" in LH with access to all the info. You guys often produce better analysis than you'll find in any of the papers, so I thought I'd let you in the loop on the Ganley issue because it's the number one discussion topic on this site.

Keep up the good work. And to answer your question, I don't write for that particular broadsheet.
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IF anything the SBP is anti lisbon? Its a former republican controlled paper? From my reading of it, it is not biased and very fair in its coverage. Its the only quality paper in Ireland on Sundays ( bar the Time the odd time, can be very hit and miss )
You must be kidding. Pat Leahy is one of their main mouthpieces on pro-Lisbon propaganda. During Lisbon 1 Leahy in one week chaired two Lisbon 'debates' where all 6 participants on both panels were pro-Lisbon. Leahy was paid by the Commission to 'Chair' these debates and in the following Suinday's SBP he wrote a disgraceful piece of trash, no doubt supplied by the government/commission, in which he attempted to link Ganley by the most obscure grounds with some Austrians neo-nazis. But when you read the article all that group appeared to have done was to campaign against a Mosque in the city of Linz! Hardly crime of the century.
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I'm signing off. I just thought I'd pass on the info because the value of this site is that it has ended the culture of there being a political "golden circle" in LH with access to all the info. You guys often produce better analysis than you'll find in any of the papers, so I thought I'd let you in the loop on the Ganley issue because it's the number one discussion topic on this site.

Keep up the good work. And to answer your question, I don't write for that particular broadsheet.

Hasta la vista baby.
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Ganley's own people have been trying to push some internal research showing him on 23% and heading the poll with massive support in Galway,
I think he's the only Galway candidate + money + FF meltdown = he's got a good chance
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IF anything the SBP is anti lisbon? Its a former republican controlled paper? From my reading of it, it is not biased and very fair in its coverage. Its the only quality paper in Ireland on Sundays ( bar the Time the odd time, can be very hit and miss )

Its the ad. verts, from big businness that call the tune everywhere
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Us no voters are on the verge of giving a second 'bloody-nose' to the elites. Like Moscow 1941, the myth of an invincible empire is about to be shattered. We will never surrender. Not the beginning of the end - but the end of the beginning. No voters - let's send this Treaty to the dustbin where it belongs - with the party that negotiated (without reading) it.
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Us no voters are on the verge of giving a second 'bloody-nose' to the elites. Like Moscow 1941, the myth of an invincible empire is about to be shattered. We will never surrender. Not the beginning of the end - but the end of the beginning. No voters - let's send this Treaty to the dustbin where it belongs - with the party that negotiated (without reading) it.
Dream on. It will be carried 65 :35 .Irish people aren't totally stupid ,evidenced in the massive kicking FF are going to get next week. Horray for 2nd chances.
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However, the Irish Times poll showing him stalling cannot be discounted, and we will have to wait and see on this one.
The problem is that the Irish Times has been discredited as an objective news source where Ganley, Libertas and the EU are concerned so it is not unthinkable that Madam's institutional bias against Ganley and Libertas will be reflected in how it presents the data and, perhaps, in how the polling questions are framed.

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In South, I'm told the increase in the Ferris vote makes up for much of the overall 3% national swing to Sinn Fein, and that she has moved into the "top tier" of candidates alongside Sinnott and Kelly. This is good news for Sinnott if she can stay ahead of Ferris, and curtains for Kelly as it is generally assumed that Ferris will benefit Sinnott when she goes out.
I think that Sinnott's vote base is too fragmented in that it is both a personal vote and a collection of extremist voters. That is fine for an "outsider" type of vote during good times economically but it could be trouble now in a recession. The traditional protest vote parties always tend to do better in a recession when the vote effectively polarises. Add Ferris' high profile poster campaign and media appearances, Sinnott's effectively non-existent media campaign and her 'mad eyes' posters, Alan Kelly's minimal media profile and his 'smug git' posters and there is the probability that voters may opt for Ferris and create quite an upset for both Sinnott and Kelly/Labour.

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Us no voters are on the verge of giving a second 'bloody-nose' to the elites. Like Moscow 1941, the myth of an invincible empire is about to be shattered. We will never surrender. Not the beginning of the end - but the end of the beginning. No voters - let's send this Treaty to the dustbin where it belongs - with the party that negotiated (without reading) it.
Been watching the BNP ads again?
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Excellent result for Sinn Féin, a statistically significant increase. Sinn Féin is really doing well now - a very empowering experience. In all of this Sinn Féin will aim at sustainable slow release rather then here-today-gone-tomorrow increases.
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