Interesting piece from Ronan Lyons (Daft economist) on the relative pay levels of teachers in Ireland and abroad.

Tackling the thorny issue of teachers pay Ronan Lyons | Blog

The graph showing the pay per day is the most telling IMO.

This should be displayed in every staff room in the country !

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that graph says it all.

Any chance we could get one on pensions also ?

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Any chance we could get ACCURATE figures? (primary school in ireland is 183 days, which does not include first communion/confirmation days or saturdays spent in school while children are being assessed by psychologist)

Any chance we could also get an ACCURATE comparison of class contact hours and class size?

Why were these countries (and only these countries) selected for the purpose of comparison?

Amazing how only those statistics which suits one's prejudice are given.

If we are going to have a reasonable and fair discussion, let us compare all aspects of teachers' pay /conditions of employment.

You should have done this during your two week easter holidays If you were that interested.

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The Thatcherite Labour Party's solution then..?

Its no suprise that they are higher-can you name one sector of Irish Salaries that are LOWER than our European conterparts? I dont pretend (unlike Others here) to be an expert on European Teachers but you woukd have to look at conditions and performance of their various systems. ie England is often thrown up but they cant hold teachers ( the mean teacher exit is after 5 yrs). You could look at Finland but then again learning to read write in Finnish is a breeze if you know anything about Finnish. Yet they are trotted out at number 1 in league info.

You need also to look up and compare your own salaries instead of being such easy lays for the Sunday Independent Propganda Department.

I am interested in logical discussion. I respect the opinions of others but i think those opinions should be based on accurate information. I think statistics quoted should be accurate and that it is important to have all the facts.

I have no idea what you did during easter, nor do i care. it is not relevant to this discussion. you have no idea what i did during easter and it has no relevance to this discussion.

I think I'll become a teacher.