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O'Keeffe to dissolve National University of Ireland

This is a discussion on O'Keeffe to dissolve National University of Ireland within the Education & Science forums, part of the Topical Discussion category on Politics.ie. Originally Posted by katy brock The college of Entitlement? Sorry, I meant "the college of Enlightenment"....
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The college of Entitlement?
Sorry, I meant "the college of Enlightenment".
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According to the grapevine, Hugh Brady will be pleased (& also Wikipedia - "University College Dublin president, Dr.Hugh Brady has expressed the opinion that the National University system, is perhaps outdated and needs to either be overhauled or dissolved.[citation needed]").

Batt's move will remove obstacle to further integration between UCD & Trinity as driven by Brady.

RTE News: UCD, Trinity announce Innovation Academy

Irish Times: UCD is big winner in merger

What should the combined UCD / TCD be known as?
I imagine that he will be most pleased and that he will respond with an even wider grin than usual. If UCD can save anything on this on their side they may even be able to install some gold-plated fittings in the toilets for senior UCD academics.
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Notable that Batt O'Keeffe won't answer questions in Dail Eireann but will spin this on Radio FF.
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Sorry, I meant "the college of Enlightenment".
"Entitlement" is better, and has the hubristic benefits of the current labour market..

On a serious note, while the manner in which the Seanad is elected is profoundly undemocratic, it would be awful to forfeit electing the three senators NUI , and would the three Trinity Senators be threatened in the interest of parity?

This, for me, is the real loss. (and the fact that nearly all my family are NUI graduates and are, to a man / woman, rabidly anti FF)
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According to the grapevine, Hugh Brady will be pleased (& also Wikipedia - "University College Dublin president, Dr.Hugh Brady has expressed the opinion that the National University system, is perhaps outdated and needs to either be overhauled or dissolved.[citation needed]").

Batt's move will remove obstacle to further integration between UCD & Trinity as driven by Brady.

RTE News: UCD, Trinity announce Innovation Academy

Irish Times: UCD is big winner in merger

What should the combined UCD / TCD be known as?
Never ever going to happen. Kudos on the abolition of the NUI as well.
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off topic i know but when michael d gets up and starts riding his high horse as he did on this subject earlier today, is he not obliged to refer to the Dail as the 'Dail' and not 'Parliament'? In Ireland we have the Dail and not Parliament.
Its seems unusual for a TD to use this term. Next he will be calling himself an MP.
he did the same yesterday when on his high horse about the banking enquiry issue.
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Never ever going to happen. Kudos on the abolition of the NUI as well.
Might as well go ahead, they're presenting themselves as one and the same (in advance of the PRTLI funding decision anyway)

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Time for some Dublin wide university federation, similar to that in London.
You mean the one that is hanging together by a finger nail and which has seen the largest college (Imperial) leave, and the two other big names (UCL/LSE) consider leaving?
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off topic i know but when michael d gets up and starts riding his high horse as he did on this subject earlier today, is he not obliged to refer to the Dail as the 'Dail' and not 'Parliament'? In Ireland we have the Dail and not Parliament.
Its seems unusual for a TD to use this term. Next he will be calling himself an MP.
he did the same yesterday when on his high horse about the banking enquiry issue.
Unusual, but hardly worth worrying about.
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If NUI is dissolved I hope the college in Galway can go back to being called UCG rather than NUIG. Find it hard to identify with NUIG.
You and me both.
Then we can rename UL to NIHEEEE.

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You might notice that in the piece you link to that Batt refers in the last paragraph to working with the department of the Environment which suggests we should see a statement in the next while about legislation being produced to allow for changes to the 6 senate seats. If there is no NUI then there is no NUI panel.

The whole point of the wording of the 1979 referendum was that in granted to the Oireachtas the power to alter the composition of the electorate for the 6 3rd level seats that no institution could claim it as giving their existence constitutional protection. This was aimed at TCD at the time, which was talked about as merging with UCD as its Arts wing. Ironic that it is the NUI that has gone not TCD.
Surprising it isn't the Trinity senators they aren't trying to get rid of, after all life would be much easier for ff if Shane Ross wasn't around and Norris might be considered a pain at times to poor ould donnie "the wig" cassidy.

So of all the quangoes or state organsiations they target NUI, one that has been around one of the longest.
It just appears a bit, well mealy mouthed to me.
Any chance they can dump NRA (who can't ensure all the main roads motorways are drivable or didn't ever bother thinking that someone driving from Dundalk to Ballinasloe on motorway might actually want ot pull over just to have a pi** ), or pehaps Railway Procurement Agency, or one of the other 100 odd quangoes created since 1997 by memoirs bertie ?
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