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This is a discussion on Paul Kienitz nails the Libertarian scam within the Economy forums, part of the Topical Discussion category on Politics.ie. Originally Posted by Akrasia yes I know, voluntarily blah blah... You voluntarily gave up your freedom to your employer, it ...
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| "and Akrasia has just found the winning argument for every debate in the history of the world. We might as well shut down P.ie now, there's nothing more to talk about" Quote:
A voluntary exchange between two people benefits both parties, otherwise the exchange would never take place. If I agree to do something in exchange for money, it's because I value the money higher than what I give up in return. Quote:
Yes. If you know more than the bosses I'm sure you can look for an interview with a competitor. Quote:
That's just waffle.
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| Here is the definition of freedom from wikipedia. I agree with it, no doubt the libertarians don't Quote:
For an ideology that supposedly desires individual freedom as it's highest goal, Your definition as the 'freedom', to subordinate your choices to a system based entirely on 'property rights' is about the weakest definition of freedom that I can concieve. When one party to a 'free contract' gets to dictate the terms, and the other is in a position to only accept or reject those terms, then there is clearly a position of subordination there and a severe restriction on the freedom of the weaker party. This is of course, abundantly clear to everyone except libertarians (and austrian economists as you prefer to be known)
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| Is this an admission that you believe there is no freedom under Socialism?
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| Do you know what socialism is?
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| Of course. You obviously don't if you have the audacity to state that a worker would have more freedom under Socialism than Capitalism hahaha You're having a laugh mate
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| So your consultant said that if you didn't have insurance and you actually had cancer you would have died within a year?
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| Capitalists don't get sick. They have no souls and don't care about their families or friends so they advocate policies to destroy healthcare in countries for the sole benefits of big faceless corporations and their balance sheets. It's a massive conspiracy. Socialists have a monopoly on compassion. ![]()
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