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What would be the effect if you stopped paying children's allowance for obese children?
The family budget for food would be less,hence fewer calories and reduction in fat. But that would be a punitive and excessively intrusive sanction which would find no political support.

That said,I understand the NHS in the UK is applying some sanctions to obese people who do not follow doctors' orders to control their weight. They are told they will be far down the waiting lists for certain treatments.
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The family budget for food would be less,hence fewer calories and reduction in fat. But that would be a punitive and excessively intrusive sanction which would find no political support.

That said,I understand the NHS in the UK is applying some sanctions to obese people who do not follow doctors' orders to control their weight. They are told they will be far down the waiting lists for certain treatments.
I for one am intrigued by this thread and can't wait to see how it is turned into a PS bashinhg one, Come on Pat, take us out of our misery
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During the ration years in Britain the government sent some nutrition experts around to show the housewives of Britain how to cook. The women had been overcooking the veg which meant it lost all its goodness and they also explained what a balanced diet was and what type of food,at a good price, they should provide.

I was talking to a friend about this a few days ago, all our mothers in the 1980s overcooked the veg, losing its goodness.

A lot of ignorance out there about food.

The amount of fatties, especially children is shocking. Terribly weak stupid parents.
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How come the solution to everything involves taking peoples money?. Next time you are out shopping have a look at the ingredients in the "food" that is out there. How many of them contain undigestable trans fats/hydrogenated fats and isoglucose?. People can't digest these artificial ingredients, the body stores them as fat and they can't be burned off easily. The food that is on the shelves (processed "food" in particular) is full of artificial ingredients, why isn't the onus placed on manufactures to remove this sh*t from the food that they produce?.
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Why not pay the obese to exercise?
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I was talking to a friend about this a few days ago, all our mothers in the 1980s overcooked the veg, losing its goodness.
Funnily enough I had the very same conversation last week! It took years for me to start eating veg again, and discover that properly cooked it's actually delicious, after turning my back on all that tasteless overboiled mush we got slopped into us as kids...
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Funnily enough I had the very same conversation last week! It took years for me to start eating veg again, and discover that properly cooked it's actually delicious, after turning my back on all that tasteless overboiled mush we got slopped into us as kids...
Every Irish mother did it. I remember being in a restaurant and my sister complaining that the brocolli was crunchy.

I agree, veg is lovely, not the mush we all had though.
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Blackburn and Darwen council gave all the residents free gym membership because they had the highest obesity rate in the Country.

Taxing junk food would not stop people eating it, however, it would contribute to the increased medical expenses that they are likely to clock up as a result of their binging. It is a polluter pays policy.
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Blackburn and Darwen council gave all the residents free gym membership because they had the highest obesity rate in the Country.

Taxing junk food would not stop people eating it, however, it would contribute to the increased medical expenses that they are likely to clock up as a result of their binging. It is a polluter pays policy.
Sadly this isn't a market-induced externality.
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I for one am intrigued by this thread and can't wait to see how it is turned into a PS bashinhg one, Come on Pat, take us out of our misery
I'm waiting for the Green bashing to start, even though the Greens have always been to the fore in promoting healthy living, ie, get ireland growing | Get Ireland Growing and the 'Incredible Edibles' campaign to get the kids growing fresh veg in school in the hopes that they will be more inclined to eat what they grow, + the bike scheme Welcome | bikescheme.ie - cycle to work scheme to get people out of their cars, or the Safe Ways to School scheme to get the kids walking again.

Thanks to the emphasis on making money, (instead of healthy living, family life, and outdoor recreational activities) which has been encouraged in this country over the past 10 years, working parents take the easy option of grabbing microwavable food to feed to their creche-reared kids, before propping their little darlings in front of violent PS3 games to soothe them to sleep.
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